On January 14, 2020 at 3:08 PM Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> wrote:
_______________________________________________My FAVORITE things to put on shop drawings (because it drove our spoiled union fitters CRAZY) was to write GOE or TOE on an over-cut piece of pipe. If we were in a big hurry and had no real idea of where or how to start resolving an issue, I’d use VIF (verify in field). That was always good for a phone call …
Steve L.
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 12:03 PM
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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37)
Are you familiar with the term ‘C.O.J.’?
Heheheh…
Just in case you aren’t, it’s not dirty or anything. It means “cut on job”.
-Kyle M
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Verhei via Sprinklerforum
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 7:42 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37)
I’ve never drawn up a fab order. I always assumed you’d need this information. Do I get it wrong.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
On Jan 13, 2020, at 06:15, Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> wrote:I’m curious why there is any confusion over this?
Example: If you have sprinklers on sprigs and don’t provide any elevation information, the shop drawing reviewer or permit reviewer will have to calculate the fitting takeouts and sprig lengths to be sure your sprinkler is within the allowable dimensions from the deck. Without piping elevations how will the crew know where the pipe is supposed to be routed so that it doesn’t run into every other system that’s in the same space?
When reviewing calculations, having elevations shown on the drawing that correlate to the calcs helps verify that the design depicted on drawings and in the calcs actually match.
Dimensions are great too as well as building column lines for reference.
Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | [email protected] | www.jacobs.com
1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606
From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo via Sprinklerforum
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 6:10 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37)
Bob,
The committee wants to see relative elevation changes. This helps with lengths of pipe and calcs too.
We use the word relative because it doesn't need to be Above Sea Level.
(But I think you already know this!!)
Cecil
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Cecil Bilbo
Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology
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Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 3:41:36 PM
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Subject: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37)
From NFPA 13 (2013 ED), 23.1.3 (37) Relative elevations of sprinklers, junction points, and supply or reference points.
This is probably an obvious question, but not to me. What is this asking for?
Thank you,
Bob Knight, CET III
Fire by Knight, LLC
208-318-3057
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