Are you familiar with the term ‘C.O.J.’?

Heheheh…

Just in case you aren’t, it’s not dirty or anything. It means “cut on job”.

-Kyle M

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I’ve never drawn up a fab order. I always assumed you’d need this information. 
Do I get it wrong.

Best.

Bruce Verhei

On Jan 13, 2020, at 06:15, Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum 
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I’m curious why there is any confusion over this?

Example: If you have sprinklers on sprigs and don’t provide any elevation 
information, the shop drawing reviewer or permit reviewer will have to 
calculate the fitting takeouts and sprig lengths to be sure your sprinkler is 
within the allowable dimensions from the deck.  Without piping elevations how 
will the crew know where the pipe is supposed to be routed so that it doesn’t 
run into every other system that’s in the same space?

When reviewing calculations, having elevations shown on the drawing that 
correlate to the calcs helps verify that the design depicted on drawings and in 
the calcs actually match.

Dimensions are great too as well as building column lines for reference.

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37)


Bob,
The committee wants to see relative elevation changes.  This helps with lengths 
of pipe and calcs too.
We use the word relative because it doesn't need to be Above Sea Level.
(But I think you already know this!!)

Cecil




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NFPA Regulations Governing Committee Projects and should therefore not be 
considered, nor relied upon, as the official position of the the NFPA, nor any 
of their technical committees.

Sincerely,


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Subject: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37)


From NFPA 13 (2013 ED), 23.1.3 (37)  Relative  elevations  of  sprinklers,  
junction  points,  and supply or reference points.

This is probably an obvious question, but not to me.  What is this asking for?





Thank you,



Bob Knight, CET III

Fire by Knight, LLC

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