FIF. Fit in Field . Had a Foreman that claimed it meant F______ in Field. 

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> On Jan 15, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Bruce Verhei via Sprinklerforum 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> AIL? Address it later?
> 
> Best.
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 11:06, Ben Young via Sprinklerforum 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> VIF verify in field
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:49 PM BILL MENSTER via Sprinklerforum 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> NTS. (not too sure)
>>>> On January 14, 2020 at 3:08 PM Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> My FAVORITE things to put on shop drawings (because it drove our spoiled 
>>>> union fitters CRAZY) was to write GOE or TOE on an over-cut piece of pipe. 
>>>>   If we were in a big hurry and had no real idea of where or how to start 
>>>> resolving an issue, I’d use VIF (verify in field).   That was always good 
>>>> for a phone call …
>>>> 
>>>> Steve L.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: Sprinklerforum 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 12:03 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Cc: Kyle.Montgomery; Bruce Verhei
>>>> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37)
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Are you familiar with the term ‘C.O.J.’?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Heheheh…
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Just in case you aren’t, it’s not dirty or anything. It means “cut on job”.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> -Kyle M
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: Sprinklerforum 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce 
>>>> Verhei via Sprinklerforum
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 7:42 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Cc: Bruce Verhei <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37)
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve never drawn up a fab order. I always assumed you’d need this 
>>>> information. Do I get it wrong. 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Best.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Bruce Verhei 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 06:15, Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m curious why there is any confusion over this?  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Example: If you have sprinklers on sprigs and don’t provide any elevation 
>>>> information, the shop drawing reviewer or permit reviewer will have to 
>>>> calculate the fitting takeouts and sprig lengths to be sure your sprinkler 
>>>> is within the allowable dimensions from the deck.  Without piping 
>>>> elevations how will the crew know where the pipe is supposed to be routed 
>>>> so that it doesn’t run into every other system that’s in the same space?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> When reviewing calculations, having elevations shown on the drawing that 
>>>> correlate to the calcs helps verify that the design depicted on drawings 
>>>> and in the calcs actually match.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Dimensions are great too as well as building column lines for reference.  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | 
>>>> [email protected] | www.jacobs.com
>>>> 
>>>> 1041 East Butler Road   Greenville, South Carolina  29606
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On 
>>>> Behalf Of Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo via Sprinklerforum
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 6:10 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>> Cc: Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37)
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bob,
>>>> The committee wants to see relative elevation changes.  This helps with 
>>>> lengths of pipe and calcs too.
>>>> We use the word relative because it doesn't need to be Above Sea Level.
>>>> (But I think you already know this!!)
>>>> 
>>>> Cecil
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It should be recognized that the above is my opinion as a member of the 
>>>> NFPA, and has not been processed as a formal interpretation in accordance 
>>>> with the NFPA Regulations Governing Committee Projects and should 
>>>> therefore not be considered, nor relied upon, as the official position of 
>>>> the the NFPA, nor any of their technical committees.
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cecil Bilbo
>>>> Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology
>>>> Champaign, IL
>>>> 217.607.0325
>>>> www.sprinkleracademy.com
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> ??
>>>> OUR STUDENTS SAVE LIVES!!
>>>> 
>>>> From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> on 
>>>> behalf of Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 3:41:36 PM
>>>> To: [email protected] 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> Cc: Bob Knight <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37)
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From NFPA 13 (2013 ED), 23.1.3 (37)  Relative  elevations  of  sprinklers, 
>>>>  junction  points,  and supply or reference points.
>>>> 
>>>> This is probably an obvious question, but not to me.  What is this asking 
>>>> for?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Bob Knight, CET III
>>>> 
>>>> Fire by Knight, LLC
>>>> 
>>>> 208-318-3057
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