I’ve never drawn up a fab order. I always assumed you’d need this information. 
Do I get it wrong. 

Best.

Bruce Verhei 

> On Jan 13, 2020, at 06:15, Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I’m curious why there is any confusion over this? 
>  
> Example: If you have sprinklers on sprigs and don’t provide any elevation 
> information, the shop drawing reviewer or permit reviewer will have to 
> calculate the fitting takeouts and sprig lengths to be sure your sprinkler is 
> within the allowable dimensions from the deck.  Without piping elevations how 
> will the crew know where the pipe is supposed to be routed so that it doesn’t 
> run into every other system that’s in the same space?
>  
> When reviewing calculations, having elevations shown on the drawing that 
> correlate to the calcs helps verify that the design depicted on drawings and 
> in the calcs actually match.
>  
> Dimensions are great too as well as building column lines for reference. 
>  
> Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | 
> [email protected] | www.jacobs.com
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> From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On 
> Behalf Of Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo via Sprinklerforum
> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 6:10 PM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Cc: Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo <[email protected]>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37)
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> 
> Bob,
> The committee wants to see relative elevation changes.  This helps with 
> lengths of pipe and calcs too.
> We use the word relative because it doesn't need to be Above Sea Level.
> (But I think you already know this!!)
> 
> Cecil
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It should be recognized that the above is my opinion as a member of the NFPA, 
> and has not been processed as a formal interpretation in accordance with the 
> NFPA Regulations Governing Committee Projects and should therefore not be 
> considered, nor relied upon, as the official position of the the NFPA, nor 
> any of their technical committees.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> 
> Cecil Bilbo
> Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology
> Champaign, IL
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> From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> on 
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> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 3:41:36 PM
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> Cc: Bob Knight <[email protected]>
> Subject: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37)
>  
> From NFPA 13 (2013 ED), 23.1.3 (37)  Relative  elevations  of  sprinklers,  
> junction  points,  and supply or reference points.
> This is probably an obvious question, but not to me.  What is this asking for?
>  
>  
> Thank you,
>  
> Bob Knight, CET III
> Fire by Knight, LLC
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