Corrected grammer in first paragraph:

Possibly we are the only live steamers on the West Coast who seem to have
made careers out of trying to get just ONE locomotive running properly.

Steve

On 6/30/06, Steve Shyvers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Royce,
>
> About time you made it to the NSS again!  I look forward to seeing you.
> Possibly we are the only live steamer's on the West Coast who seem to have
> made careers out trying to get just ONE locomotive running properly.
>
> Neoprene apparently breaks down when exposed to alcohol. For filling
> alcohol fuel tanks I used a syringe with a neoprene plunger seal. After a
> few years the neoprene broke down, became gummy as you report, and made the
> syringe very stiff to work. Finally I had to discard it and get a new
> syringe.
>
> I concur with Lord Geoff that silicone tubing from the hobby shop is the
> way to go. It's tinted blue in color, and comes in several different inside
> diameters. Get the correct size for a good push fit over the copper tubing.
> I haven't used proper hose barbs with it. I just take two turns of #20 or
> #22 gauge solid copper wire around the connection and twist the fall ends
> with needle-nosed pliers. Not too tight or else the twisted part breaks off
> or the wire cuts into the tubing.
>
> The only deterioration with silicone tubing that I've seen is where the
> copper tubing gets REALLY hot. The alcohol feed line from the Philly sump to
> the burners will never get that hot under normal useage. When the copper
> gets really hot over an extended period of time the silicone crystallizes
> and welds to the copper. Then it loses strength, and it needs to be chipped
> off the copper. No damage to the copper.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 6/29/06, Geoff Spenceley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >Hi S.B Royce,
> >
> >
> > The best line for the alky feed is soft silicon tubing, I am sure
> > Sulphur springs has it--if you give them the dimensions.  You may
> > find a supply at you local DYI or  at a hobby shop  who stocks fuel
> > lines for model aircraft.
> >
> > Look forward to seeing you in Sacramento.
> >
> > Geoff.
> >
> > >Hi steamers.  Just got my reservations at Lion's Gate and sent my reg
> > >fee to Sonny.  So . . . that means I'm committed to attending the
> > Summer
> > >Steamup in Sac next month.  I didn't make it to the Queen Mary,
> > deciding
> > >that the time might be better spent trying to get my steamer further
> > >along.  While I've been working as much as I can (which isn't as much
> > as
> > >I'd like) to get as much done on my Philly and tender, it will not be
> > as
> > >complete as I would like.  I've still got problems with the axle pump -
> > >can't seem to get it to pump under boiler pressure (although static
> > >tests show that the pump functions well) - but I'm going to bring it
> > >anyway.  I do have a question about hoses though.  I've been using
> > >neoprene for the feed and return lines.  It seems that the feed line
> > >hose is degrading to a gooey mess where it is stretched over the copper
> > >(5/32 od) feed line.  Has anyone ever observed this ?  There are no
> > >bands clamping the hose to the tubing.  So it is simply neoprene/copper
> >
> > >interface.  What gives ?  The return line with the same connection has
> > >not suffered the same fate.
> > >
> > >And on a related matter, what is the preferred hose for the alcohol
> > feed
> > >line ?  (I'm trying to get the tender alcohol tank/sump done before
> > >Sacramento).
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance for any input you more experienced steamers might
> > share.
> > >
> > >Looking forward to seeing all of you.
> > >
> > >royce (in SB)
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