Thanks for the research, Lord Geoff.  Incidentally, there's nothing like 
steamed brass to keep us happy!
  Love & aloha, 
  Vickie-Marie

Geoff Spenceley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >Hey Vickie, John and Larry,


Thanks to Larry's tip, I contacted Alan Rice who intends to build a 
live steamer , (intend, intend intend!) and he referred me to a John 
Felt who is into "off list" scale. John works for one of the timber 
companies where he works as a machinist. He builds 1-1/2 scale locos 
7-1/2" gauge and is a master machinist. I forget what his current 
engine is but he does belong to the Southern Oregon Live Steamers so 
he travels up there with his engines. He is currently building a 
museum piece and I expect to visit him soon--but it is an hours drive 
south. With all due to respect to John, he does not have much 
interest in gauge one. Boy! what he is missing! BTW; I did meet him 
at one of our club meets he last attended about ten years ago!

Now to keep this message within the perimeter that will please Dave, 
I will write about my own vast and time consuming experience with 
BRASS. That is the brass I know about is all the brass on my Royal 
Marine uniform in WW11 which I had to polish - and all the bloody 
"brass" I had to salute. Now I am getting brassed off all over 
again! When I see John Felt, I will let him inform on his brassy 
opinions and will report- if I remember, which I probably won't- so 
don't fret!

Lord of Brass, GeofF






>Hey John and Lord Geoff,
> 
> We were there late on Sunday. It was Glen's first "outing" since 
>shoulder reconstruction surgery last week. Had a nice chat with 
>fellow Master Gardener and RR buff, Hayden Lee, at the G layout. 
>Loved the "junkyard." The earthquake scene was pretty fantastic and 
>well done. John Powell's work was very good, but Clark Lord's 
>bridge is still superior.
> 
> As for small scale live steam at this type of train show, you may 
>want to know that it doesn't work out well. I understand that at 
>some of the big shows (Queen Mary comes to mind), there is a secure 
>set-up for live steam. But at smaller venues, Paso Robles is an 
>example similar to Medford, it becomes a scary ordeal. Little kids 
>(and many of their parents) tend to ignore warnings that the steam 
>is real, not to touch the locos because they don't just "look" hot 
>and not to stop in front of steamers carrying hot, spitting 
>locomotives. And a lot of the electric folks object to being 
>anywhere near the greasy, wet rails that many of our live steam 
>machines leave in their wake. It is also very difficult to hear 
>what's going on with your loco due to the excessive crowd noise and 
>bells, whistles and clanging created by some of the electrics. And 
>the smell from one coal burner being run indoors could almost cause 
>a lawsuit from someone unawares. Been there, done that. Not
> fun.
> 
> Please do let me know if either of you figure out who was the 
>North Coast live steamer who ran on coal at Medford's RR Park. I 
>know that his lordship has a coal burner, so, of course, Ld. Geoff 
>was my first thought. 
>
> Vickie-Marie
>
>"John R. Page" wrote:
> Sorry I missed you Vickie. I was present at the G-gauge layout for 
>awhile, and over at the craft table late Saturday afternoon with my 
>Accucraft Mogul and John Powell's amazing 1:20 bridge work and 
>logging cars. I understand Saturday's paid attendance broke all 
>previous records.
>
>We also had some new displays this year, including a fantastic 
>diorama featuring an LGB yellow Mogul on a trestle damaged by an 
>imaginary 8.2 earthquake. The HO club from Klamath Falls also 
>brought their modular layout over for display. Maybe next year, we 
>will have some live steam engines actually running, if only on 
>static blocks or rollers.
>
>John Page
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