What I find interesting that hasn't been discussed yet in this forum along these lines, is what is the actual function of the Area Superintendents? I have talked with many parents of students who have stated they have gotten little to no satisfaction when communicating with these individuals about complaints that cannot be handled at the school level. I assume they are taking all of the complaints in an effort to see that the District Superintendent does not get bogged down in this area.
How are they reviewed for effectiveness? Are there surveys sent out to people who have actually called their offices for assistance? Is anyone in their offices logging the calls that come in? Are we getting any comments or soliciting them from the end user, namely our students and parents that have contacted these individuals? It seems to me that with ( I believe) six area superintendents, ( correct me if I am in error), how is the determination made to have six? How many students or family units are being administered by each area superintendent? And what does it take to get an actual complaint advanced to the "head" Superintendent? Pamela Ellison Como Park Saint Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Tester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "St. Paul Issues Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tim Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [StPaul] Superintendent's Compensation > "I don't see any evidence of superintendents playing musical chairs > for financial gain. Certainly, our current superintendent has > outlived most expectations or "survival rates" of other > superintendents. So I question the relevance of the comment to the > current discussion." > > Oh please. The fact that the average tenure of these people is 2-3 years > isn't relevant? When they leave, where do they go? The private sector? Of > course not. They go to another superintendent's job, for what, less money? > Are we paying Ms. Harvey less money or more money than her predecessor? Are > we paying Ms. Harvey more money or less money than she received in her > previous job? And since all this "incentive" to keep her around is coming > out of my pocket, I'd say it's relevant. > > And please don't try to make the worn-out comparison with executives in the > private sector. If I don't like the compensation package Best Buy is paying > for their director of training (with 90,000 employees, a comparable position > in the private sector, believe me), I can express my displeasure by not > shopping there or selling my stock. They don't have the power to confiscate > my money to pay for their personnel mistakes. > > But you're right. This is just my opinion, but it seems to me that when you > have to teach 40,000 people and get $10,000 each to do it, the results > should be dramatic. Give me 30 kids and $300,000 and I'd give you 30 kids > who could at least read, write and make change at MacDonalds. > > > Dennis Tester > Mac-Groveland > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Dennis Tester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "St. Paul Issues Forum" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:38 AM > Subject: Re: [StPaul] Superintendent's Compensation > > > > >What a racket. This musical chairs game being played by a handfull of > > >small city school superintendents, where every couple of years they leave > > >for a better deal, creating an opening for another one of their ilk to > > >milk the locals for an even bigger sweatheart contract, is one of the > > >reasons taxpayers have such low regard for the entire public education > > >fiasco. My 2 cents. > > > > This may be your opinion. But, I don't see this. > > > > I don't see any evidence of superintendents playing musical chairs for > > financial gain. Certainly, our current superintendent has outlived most > > expectations or "survival rates" of other superintendents. So I question > > the relevance of the comment to the current discussion. > > > > This sounds to me, like a canned gripe that doesn't take any of the > > current facts into consideration. > > > > If this is a sweetheart deal - then please provide examples of > > supervisors/executives with the kinds of responsibilities of the SPPS > > superintendent, that work for lessor contracts. > > > > I can guarantee, that any private sector executive with similar > > responsibilities would be making a salary many times greater than our > > superintendent (not to mention stock options and other corporate perks). > > > > Now, I'm not against taking a hard look at the contract and holding it up > > to public scrutiny. BUT, blanket statements about superintendents playing > > musical chairs - ADDS nothing to the conversation or debate. > > > > I challenge the poster to provide details about how he feels that the St. > > Paul School District is being mismanaged or how the current St. Paul > > contract is out of line with the specific responsibilities of the job. > > > > That would be helpful to a public discussion. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Tim Erickson > > Hamline Midway > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > ================================================= > > Tim Erickson http://www.politalk.com St. Paul, MN - USA > > 651-643-0722 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] iChat/AIM: stpaultim > > ================================================= > > > > _____________________________________________ > To Join: St. Paul Issues Forum Rules Discussion > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ____________________________________________ > NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul > > Archive Address: > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ > _____________________________________________ To Join: St. Paul Issues Forum Rules Discussion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/
