Yes. This is all explained in the documentation: https://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simulation/VehicleSpeed (section 1 and 2)
The default tls-penalty is 0. Values above 0 disable junction control. For details see https://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simulation/Meso#TLS-Penalty Am Mi., 3. Juli 2019 um 10:36 Uhr schrieb rony gracious <[email protected] >: > Is speedfactor applied on maxSpeed or edge speed? > If its on edge speed. If speedfactor*edgespeed is > maxspeed would the > limit be maxspeed? > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:53 PM rony gracious <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Is maxSpeed the physical limit? Does that mean speedFactor is usally >> taken less than 1? >> >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:41 PM rony gracious <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> So edge speed is configured in network file? >>> >>> What is default tls-penalty in meso if junction control is true? On what >>> is this time penalty applied? Does it change the headway accordingly if >>> junction control is true? Even if a meso-taujf is explicitly mentioned? >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:19 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> edge speeds refer to the 'speed' attribute of the edge which typically >>>> corresponds to the legal speed limit. >>>> MaxSpeed is a global speed limit for the vehicle. You could use this to >>>> model maximum desired speed but it would then be independent of the speed >>>> limit. For this reason the desired speed is often expressed in terms of the >>>> speedFactor (speedLimit * x) and maxSpeed is taken as the physical limit of >>>> the vehicle/engine. >>>> >>>> Am Mo., 1. Juli 2019 um 16:00 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>> [email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> What are these edge speeds mentioned here. How do I configure these >>>>> edge speeds? Are they same as maxSpeed in vType? >>>>> >>>>> "A vehicle keeps its chosen speed multiplier for the whole simulation >>>>> and multiplies it with edge speeds to compute the actual speed for driving >>>>> on this edge. Thus vehicles can exceed edge speeds. However, vehicle >>>>> speeds >>>>> are still capped at the vehicle type's *maxSpeed*." >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 2:24 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> vType does work in meso. Some microsim-specifics values such as >>>>>> acceleration are simply ignored. >>>>>> >>>>>> Am Mo., 1. Juli 2019 um 09:56 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If vType does not work in meso how do I change the max speed, speed >>>>>>> deviations in meso? Or does the values given in vType work for meso? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:05 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> meso vehicles always drive at yellow it the current implementation >>>>>>>> so increasing amber takes no effect. >>>>>>>> With switching, I mean phase-switching. (And everytime you switch >>>>>>>> phases there is some 'cost' because traffic across the intersection >>>>>>>> must >>>>>>>> stopped for safety reasons). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am Do., 20. Juni 2019 um 10:43 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would increasing the amber time between the green phases have the >>>>>>>>> same effect? >>>>>>>>> What do you mean by switching? I was optimizing changing the stage >>>>>>>>> times after every simulation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 1:17 PM Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Meso vehicles do not suffer from start-up delays the way micro >>>>>>>>>> vehicles do. >>>>>>>>>> To model the cost of switching, Modify, the traffic cycle so that >>>>>>>>>> are all-red phases of sufficient length when switching between the >>>>>>>>>> green >>>>>>>>>> phases. >>>>>>>>>> This way, shorter cycle times will definitely reduce capacity. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Am Do., 20. Juni 2019 um 07:02 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why does when i calculate average delay at any junction in meso >>>>>>>>>>> its always lower the cycle time lower the delay? If thats the case >>>>>>>>>>> there is >>>>>>>>>>> no way i can optimize using meso? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:52 PM rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I will check this out. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:39 PM Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In meso, vehhicles don't have to lane-change in order to use >>>>>>>>>>>>> the correct turning lane. In the sumo microsimulation, >>>>>>>>>>>>> lanechanging does >>>>>>>>>>>>> play a role and and can impede traffic. You can check whether it >>>>>>>>>>>>> makes a >>>>>>>>>>>>> difference if you set vehicle attribute departLane="best" so >>>>>>>>>>>>> vehicles enter >>>>>>>>>>>>> the simulation already on the correct lane. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, meso vehicles depart with maximum speed. To get the same >>>>>>>>>>>>> effect in sumo set departSpeed="max". >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 14:04 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 two lane edges towards the junction and two three lane >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vehicle count is around 20 - 60k in different approaches. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2019, 5:31 pm Jakob Erdmann, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may help to observe both simulations closely in sumo-gui >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see if there is an obvious difference in behavior indicating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a problem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in either of the simulations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How large is your scenario in terms of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intersections,edges,vehicle count? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 10:55 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The flow given was same for both 5 hour simulation. But >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I take count for every 30 minutes that's where the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference is. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last vehicle in sumo enters 2 hours after the last vehicle in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meso entered. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Sorry. I meant junction control. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2019, 12:30 pm Jakob Erdmann, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's hard to answer this generally. Meso and miro are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different models so there will be many situations in which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they produce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different results. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You first have to figure out whether the sumo flow is too >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> low (e.g. due to road nework problems) or whether the the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meso flow is too >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> high (which can be due to the used options). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no meso option called tl-logic (but there is one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for tls and one for junction control) so you need to be more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> precise on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used option. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 07:47 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the same flow sumo is taking around 2 hours of extra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulated time then meso which accounts for this extra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:02 AM rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While I run meso for a 5 hour simulation with loop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detectors placed there is a considerable difference in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vehicle count from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I do the same with sumo. When I took vehicle count >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every 30 minutes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meso had atleast 100 vehicles more than sumo in each time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step of 30 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me why that is and how I can get more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closer to a sumo SIM with meso. The only parameters I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using is mesosim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> true and meso tl logic true which is in mesoscopic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rony Gracious >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>>> from this list, visit >>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ > sumo-user mailing list > [email protected] > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >
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