So edge speed is configured in network file? What is default tls-penalty in meso if junction control is true? On what is this time penalty applied? Does it change the headway accordingly if junction control is true? Even if a meso-taujf is explicitly mentioned?
On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:19 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> wrote: > edge speeds refer to the 'speed' attribute of the edge which typically > corresponds to the legal speed limit. > MaxSpeed is a global speed limit for the vehicle. You could use this to > model maximum desired speed but it would then be independent of the speed > limit. For this reason the desired speed is often expressed in terms of the > speedFactor (speedLimit * x) and maxSpeed is taken as the physical limit of > the vehicle/engine. > > Am Mo., 1. Juli 2019 um 16:00 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < > [email protected]>: > >> What are these edge speeds mentioned here. How do I configure these edge >> speeds? Are they same as maxSpeed in vType? >> >> "A vehicle keeps its chosen speed multiplier for the whole simulation and >> multiplies it with edge speeds to compute the actual speed for driving on >> this edge. Thus vehicles can exceed edge speeds. However, vehicle speeds >> are still capped at the vehicle type's *maxSpeed*." >> >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 2:24 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> vType does work in meso. Some microsim-specifics values such as >>> acceleration are simply ignored. >>> >>> Am Mo., 1. Juli 2019 um 09:56 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>> [email protected]>: >>> >>>> If vType does not work in meso how do I change the max speed, speed >>>> deviations in meso? Or does the values given in vType work for meso? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:05 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> meso vehicles always drive at yellow it the current implementation so >>>>> increasing amber takes no effect. >>>>> With switching, I mean phase-switching. (And everytime you switch >>>>> phases there is some 'cost' because traffic across the intersection must >>>>> stopped for safety reasons). >>>>> >>>>> Am Do., 20. Juni 2019 um 10:43 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> Would increasing the amber time between the green phases have the >>>>>> same effect? >>>>>> What do you mean by switching? I was optimizing changing the stage >>>>>> times after every simulation. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 1:17 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Meso vehicles do not suffer from start-up delays the way micro >>>>>>> vehicles do. >>>>>>> To model the cost of switching, Modify, the traffic cycle so that >>>>>>> are all-red phases of sufficient length when switching between the green >>>>>>> phases. >>>>>>> This way, shorter cycle times will definitely reduce capacity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am Do., 20. Juni 2019 um 07:02 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why does when i calculate average delay at any junction in meso its >>>>>>>> always lower the cycle time lower the delay? If thats the case there >>>>>>>> is no >>>>>>>> way i can optimize using meso? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:52 PM rony gracious <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. I will check this out. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:39 PM Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In meso, vehhicles don't have to lane-change in order to use the >>>>>>>>>> correct turning lane. In the sumo microsimulation, lanechanging does >>>>>>>>>> play a >>>>>>>>>> role and and can impede traffic. You can check whether it makes a >>>>>>>>>> difference if you set vehicle attribute departLane="best" so >>>>>>>>>> vehicles enter >>>>>>>>>> the simulation already on the correct lane. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, meso vehicles depart with maximum speed. To get the same >>>>>>>>>> effect in sumo set departSpeed="max". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 14:04 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2 two lane edges towards the junction and two three lane ones. >>>>>>>>>>> Vehicle count is around 20 - 60k in different approaches. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2019, 5:31 pm Jakob Erdmann, < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It may help to observe both simulations closely in sumo-gui to >>>>>>>>>>>> see if there is an obvious difference in behavior indicating a >>>>>>>>>>>> problem in >>>>>>>>>>>> either of the simulations. >>>>>>>>>>>> How large is your scenario in terms of >>>>>>>>>>>> intersections,edges,vehicle count? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 10:55 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The flow given was same for both 5 hour simulation. But when I >>>>>>>>>>>>> take count for every 30 minutes that's where the difference is. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The last >>>>>>>>>>>>> vehicle in sumo enters 2 hours after the last vehicle in meso >>>>>>>>>>>>> entered. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Sorry. I meant junction control. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2019, 12:30 pm Jakob Erdmann, < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's hard to answer this generally. Meso and miro are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> different models so there will be many situations in which they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> produce >>>>>>>>>>>>>> different results. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You first have to figure out whether the sumo flow is too low >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (e.g. due to road nework problems) or whether the the meso flow >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is too high >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which can be due to the used options). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no meso option called tl-logic (but there is one for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tls and one for junction control) so you need to be more precise >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> used option. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 07:47 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the same flow sumo is taking around 2 hours of extra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulated time then meso which accounts for this extra counts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:02 AM rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While I run meso for a 5 hour simulation with loop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detectors placed there is a considerable difference in vehicle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> count from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I do the same with sumo. When I took vehicle count every >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30 minutes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meso had atleast 100 vehicles more than sumo in each time step >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of 30 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me why that is and how I can get more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closer to a sumo SIM with meso. The only parameters I am using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is mesosim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> true and meso tl logic true which is in mesoscopic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rony Gracious >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>>> from this list, visit >>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sumo-user mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>> from this list, visit >>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> sumo-user mailing list >> [email protected] >> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >> from this list, visit >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >> > _______________________________________________ > sumo-user mailing list > [email protected] > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >
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