vType does work in meso. Some microsim-specifics values such as acceleration are simply ignored.
Am Mo., 1. Juli 2019 um 09:56 Uhr schrieb rony gracious <[email protected] >: > If vType does not work in meso how do I change the max speed, speed > deviations in meso? Or does the values given in vType work for meso? > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:05 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> meso vehicles always drive at yellow it the current implementation so >> increasing amber takes no effect. >> With switching, I mean phase-switching. (And everytime you switch phases >> there is some 'cost' because traffic across the intersection must stopped >> for safety reasons). >> >> Am Do., 20. Juni 2019 um 10:43 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >> [email protected]>: >> >>> Would increasing the amber time between the green phases have the same >>> effect? >>> What do you mean by switching? I was optimizing changing the stage times >>> after every simulation. >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 1:17 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Meso vehicles do not suffer from start-up delays the way micro vehicles >>>> do. >>>> To model the cost of switching, Modify, the traffic cycle so that are >>>> all-red phases of sufficient length when switching between the green >>>> phases. >>>> This way, shorter cycle times will definitely reduce capacity. >>>> >>>> >>>> Am Do., 20. Juni 2019 um 07:02 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>> [email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> Why does when i calculate average delay at any junction in meso its >>>>> always lower the cycle time lower the delay? If thats the case there is no >>>>> way i can optimize using meso? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:52 PM rony gracious <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. I will check this out. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:39 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In meso, vehhicles don't have to lane-change in order to use the >>>>>>> correct turning lane. In the sumo microsimulation, lanechanging does >>>>>>> play a >>>>>>> role and and can impede traffic. You can check whether it makes a >>>>>>> difference if you set vehicle attribute departLane="best" so vehicles >>>>>>> enter >>>>>>> the simulation already on the correct lane. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, meso vehicles depart with maximum speed. To get the same >>>>>>> effect in sumo set departSpeed="max". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 14:04 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2 two lane edges towards the junction and two three lane ones. >>>>>>>> Vehicle count is around 20 - 60k in different approaches. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2019, 5:31 pm Jakob Erdmann, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It may help to observe both simulations closely in sumo-gui to see >>>>>>>>> if there is an obvious difference in behavior indicating a problem in >>>>>>>>> either of the simulations. >>>>>>>>> How large is your scenario in terms of intersections,edges,vehicle >>>>>>>>> count? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 10:55 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The flow given was same for both 5 hour simulation. But when I >>>>>>>>>> take count for every 30 minutes that's where the difference is. The >>>>>>>>>> last >>>>>>>>>> vehicle in sumo enters 2 hours after the last vehicle in meso >>>>>>>>>> entered. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes. Sorry. I meant junction control. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2019, 12:30 pm Jakob Erdmann, < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's hard to answer this generally. Meso and miro are different >>>>>>>>>>> models so there will be many situations in which they produce >>>>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>>>> results. >>>>>>>>>>> You first have to figure out whether the sumo flow is too low >>>>>>>>>>> (e.g. due to road nework problems) or whether the the meso flow is >>>>>>>>>>> too high >>>>>>>>>>> (which can be due to the used options). >>>>>>>>>>> There is no meso option called tl-logic (but there is one for >>>>>>>>>>> tls and one for junction control) so you need to be more precise on >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> used option. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 07:47 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For the same flow sumo is taking around 2 hours of extra >>>>>>>>>>>> simulated time then meso which accounts for this extra counts. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:02 AM rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> While I run meso for a 5 hour simulation with loop detectors >>>>>>>>>>>>> placed there is a considerable difference in vehicle count from >>>>>>>>>>>>> when I do >>>>>>>>>>>>> the same with sumo. When I took vehicle count every 30 minutes >>>>>>>>>>>>> meso had >>>>>>>>>>>>> atleast 100 vehicles more than sumo in each time step of 30 >>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me why that is and how I can get more closer >>>>>>>>>>>>> to a sumo SIM with meso. The only parameters I am using is >>>>>>>>>>>>> mesosim true and >>>>>>>>>>>>> meso tl logic true which is in mesoscopic. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rony Gracious >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>>> from this list, visit >>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sumo-user mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>> from this list, visit >>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> sumo-user mailing list >> [email protected] >> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >> from this list, visit >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >> > _______________________________________________ > sumo-user mailing list > [email protected] > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >
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