Meso vehicles do not suffer from start-up delays the way micro vehicles do.
To model the cost of switching, Modify, the traffic cycle so that are
all-red phases of sufficient length when switching between the green phases.
This way, shorter cycle times will definitely reduce capacity.


Am Do., 20. Juni 2019 um 07:02 Uhr schrieb rony gracious <
[email protected]>:

> Why does when i calculate average delay at any junction in meso its always
> lower the cycle time lower the delay? If thats the case there is no way i
> can optimize using meso?
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:52 PM rony gracious <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. I will check this out.
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:39 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In meso, vehhicles don't have to lane-change in order to use the correct
>>> turning lane. In the sumo microsimulation, lanechanging does play a role
>>> and and can impede traffic. You can check whether it makes a difference if
>>> you set vehicle attribute departLane="best" so vehicles enter the
>>> simulation already on the correct lane.
>>>
>>> Also, meso vehicles depart with maximum speed. To get the same effect in
>>> sumo set departSpeed="max".
>>>
>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 14:04 Uhr schrieb rony gracious <
>>> [email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> 2 two lane edges towards the junction and two three lane ones.
>>>> Vehicle count is around 20 - 60k in different approaches.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2019, 5:31 pm Jakob Erdmann, <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It may help to observe both simulations closely in sumo-gui to see if
>>>>> there is an obvious difference in behavior indicating a problem in either
>>>>> of the simulations.
>>>>> How large is your scenario in terms of intersections,edges,vehicle
>>>>> count?
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 10:55 Uhr schrieb rony gracious <
>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The flow given was same for both 5 hour simulation. But when I take
>>>>>> count for every 30 minutes that's where the difference is. The last 
>>>>>> vehicle
>>>>>> in sumo enters 2 hours after the last vehicle in meso entered.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. Sorry. I meant junction control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2019, 12:30 pm Jakob Erdmann, <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's hard to answer this generally. Meso and miro are different
>>>>>>> models so there will be many situations in which they produce different
>>>>>>> results.
>>>>>>> You first have to figure out whether the sumo flow is too low (e.g.
>>>>>>> due to road nework problems) or whether the the meso flow is too high
>>>>>>> (which can be due to the used options).
>>>>>>> There is no meso option called tl-logic (but there is one for tls
>>>>>>> and one for junction control) so you need to be more precise on the used
>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> Jakob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 07:47 Uhr schrieb rony gracious <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the same flow sumo is taking around 2 hours of extra simulated
>>>>>>>> time then meso which accounts for this extra counts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:02 AM rony gracious <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While I run meso for a 5 hour simulation with loop detectors
>>>>>>>>> placed there is a considerable difference in vehicle count from when 
>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>> the same with sumo. When I took vehicle count every 30 minutes meso 
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> atleast 100 vehicles more than sumo in each time step of 30 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me why that is and how I can get more closer to a
>>>>>>>>> sumo SIM with meso. The only parameters I am using is mesosim true 
>>>>>>>>> and meso
>>>>>>>>> tl logic true which is in mesoscopic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rony Gracious
>>>>>>>>>
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