If vType does not work in meso how do I change the max speed, speed deviations in meso? Or does the values given in vType work for meso?
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:05 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> wrote: > meso vehicles always drive at yellow it the current implementation so > increasing amber takes no effect. > With switching, I mean phase-switching. (And everytime you switch phases > there is some 'cost' because traffic across the intersection must stopped > for safety reasons). > > Am Do., 20. Juni 2019 um 10:43 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < > [email protected]>: > >> Would increasing the amber time between the green phases have the same >> effect? >> What do you mean by switching? I was optimizing changing the stage times >> after every simulation. >> >> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 1:17 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Meso vehicles do not suffer from start-up delays the way micro vehicles >>> do. >>> To model the cost of switching, Modify, the traffic cycle so that are >>> all-red phases of sufficient length when switching between the green phases. >>> This way, shorter cycle times will definitely reduce capacity. >>> >>> >>> Am Do., 20. Juni 2019 um 07:02 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>> [email protected]>: >>> >>>> Why does when i calculate average delay at any junction in meso its >>>> always lower the cycle time lower the delay? If thats the case there is no >>>> way i can optimize using meso? >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:52 PM rony gracious <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks. I will check this out. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:39 PM Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In meso, vehhicles don't have to lane-change in order to use the >>>>>> correct turning lane. In the sumo microsimulation, lanechanging does >>>>>> play a >>>>>> role and and can impede traffic. You can check whether it makes a >>>>>> difference if you set vehicle attribute departLane="best" so vehicles >>>>>> enter >>>>>> the simulation already on the correct lane. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, meso vehicles depart with maximum speed. To get the same effect >>>>>> in sumo set departSpeed="max". >>>>>> >>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 14:04 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2 two lane edges towards the junction and two three lane ones. >>>>>>> Vehicle count is around 20 - 60k in different approaches. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2019, 5:31 pm Jakob Erdmann, <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It may help to observe both simulations closely in sumo-gui to see >>>>>>>> if there is an obvious difference in behavior indicating a problem in >>>>>>>> either of the simulations. >>>>>>>> How large is your scenario in terms of intersections,edges,vehicle >>>>>>>> count? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 10:55 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The flow given was same for both 5 hour simulation. But when I >>>>>>>>> take count for every 30 minutes that's where the difference is. The >>>>>>>>> last >>>>>>>>> vehicle in sumo enters 2 hours after the last vehicle in meso entered. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes. Sorry. I meant junction control. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2019, 12:30 pm Jakob Erdmann, < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's hard to answer this generally. Meso and miro are different >>>>>>>>>> models so there will be many situations in which they produce >>>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>>> results. >>>>>>>>>> You first have to figure out whether the sumo flow is too low >>>>>>>>>> (e.g. due to road nework problems) or whether the the meso flow is >>>>>>>>>> too high >>>>>>>>>> (which can be due to the used options). >>>>>>>>>> There is no meso option called tl-logic (but there is one for tls >>>>>>>>>> and one for junction control) so you need to be more precise on the >>>>>>>>>> used >>>>>>>>>> option. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 07:47 Uhr schrieb rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For the same flow sumo is taking around 2 hours of extra >>>>>>>>>>> simulated time then meso which accounts for this extra counts. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:02 AM rony gracious < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> While I run meso for a 5 hour simulation with loop detectors >>>>>>>>>>>> placed there is a considerable difference in vehicle count from >>>>>>>>>>>> when I do >>>>>>>>>>>> the same with sumo. When I took vehicle count every 30 minutes >>>>>>>>>>>> meso had >>>>>>>>>>>> atleast 100 vehicles more than sumo in each time step of 30 >>>>>>>>>>>> minutes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me why that is and how I can get more closer to >>>>>>>>>>>> a sumo SIM with meso. The only parameters I am using is mesosim >>>>>>>>>>>> true and >>>>>>>>>>>> meso tl logic true which is in mesoscopic. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rony Gracious >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >>>>>> unsubscribe from this list, visit >>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>>> from this list, visit >>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sumo-user mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>> from this list, visit >>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> sumo-user mailing list >> [email protected] >> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >> from this list, visit >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >> > _______________________________________________ > sumo-user mailing list > [email protected] > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >
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