On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Brad Lackey wrote:
This picture is certainly not lost on me, I'm an ex Sun Employee who
understands the classic EDU "get it in front of them" argument for deep
discounting to institutions. And as a proud CSU grad, I certainly don't
want to loose these products out of there.
I think that the sense of Oracle's support for EDU cannot necessarily be
measured by how a few of your resellers communicate their panic about
"no EDU specific pricing".
Actually no, my reseller said that we can't do business any longer cause
he is now by Oracle enforced to pay a partner fee. He has a very small
company (and we like dealing with all size companies) and gives me nice
prices with low overhead, so he can't make the fee. He wasn't panicing so
much about the "no EDU specific pricing" as he was about going out of
business. So I am wondering, if this is how you treat your partners, how
will you treat your customers?
This of course doesn't affect only our Sun Ray environment. We buy also
SUN-servers annually (and run OpenBSD, RedHat, Ubuntu, Solaris, Windows,
everything on them).
Then on a more sensitive note I'd like to say that I hate drama and harsh
words. This "Sunray-users vs. Oracle" shoot-out is just ridiculous. But
somehow I feel compelled to say at least something cause you are asking
for it, you are asking for feedback. And some stuff on this thread is just
FUD. If the thread is getting out of hand I'd like to be the first to
apologize, because I hate drama-threads, I like solutions and I love being
proven wrong. Truth and knowledge is always more useful than winning
arguments.
It is your product and you have the control of it, the product is just
great, I've been advocating it many many times. It is in my opinion the
best thin client solution today. Not so many know this but if this
product lives long enough it will rule the world sooner or later, we all
on this thread know this (just like Linux took some time, but now it
rules!). The EDU-world already found this out, cause the EDU-world is
often ahead. It is great that your are pumping more resources into the
product (patches, bugfixes, new hardware) but please don't kill the
supporters.
-- Alexander
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