On Sun, 24 Oct 2010, Roland Sassen wrote:
Do you have a proposal how to promote the Oracle Sun Ray?
Roland
1. Cut the price
2. Hide the *NIX parts
3. Make it easier to buy
1. DTU today costs more than a fully loaded PC. On top of that one needs
to buy a whole lot of servers. Plus learn a new way to manage desktops.
Which may feel to be too much.
2. You need an appliance for the server part. Things may be different in
some other countries where Sun/Solaris consultants/gurus are a dime in a
dozen but that is NOT the case everywhere.
3. Nobody seems to sell Sun/Oracle stuff unless specifically asked for. It
is good enough for almost anything nobody knows about it.
.mika
On 24-10-2010 17:56, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/24/10 11:46 AM, Mika A wrote:
No. His comments reflect the current situation in about 90% of potential
customer base Sun Ray could have, but will not, simply because of that.
What Sun Ray/Sun VDI needs is a Unified Storage kind of appliance, which
hides the Solaris part of the equation and JUST WORKS.
It sounds like you think Sun Ray is intended to to join the ranks of
cheap RDP-in-a-box thin clients in the Windows world. From what I've
seen, the Windows support for Sun Ray was sorta stapled onto the side
after the product
Yes, I'd like that because "nobody" cares about nor wants a
Solaris/Linux desktop.
Nah. For desktops, that was the case for a while, but no longer. I'm
moving people off of Windows left and right, and every Sun Ray installation
I've done has been completely devoid of Windows.
If all you work in are Windows shops, you'll see lots of Windows. It's
kinda like going to a Toyota dealership and saying "See? No Chevrolets
anywhere, nobody cares about Chevrolets anymore!"
Most of the potential customers need/want
Windows/Apple desktop and that's why there is the SunVDI. I don't know
where Oracle wants to take Sun Ray but it needs to be something other
than Solaris desktop.
I don't think many people share your opinion there. Solaris as a desktop
OS isn't as "polished" as MacOS (the king of desktop polish), but Linux is
awfully close now...and I'm speaking as a long-time UNIX guy but not really
a Linux guy. 99% of all desktop use is web browsing, email, and word
processing/spreadsheet/presentation stuff, which either Linux OR Solaris
handle just fine. (without the instabilities and security problems)
was established. And rightfully so...the world doesn't need another
way to get cheap Windows desktops. Sun Ray's strengths lie elsewhere.
And where is that, in today's world from a small company's perspective?
Providing inexpensive, easily manageable, low-power, small-footprint
desktops.
And more precisely: what part of that can't be done with
<whatever-windows-installable-solution>?
With stability, maintainability, security, and good performance? Which
ones CAN be done with Windows?
Now, don't get me wrong. I like Sun Ray and I'm a Linux guy, been
running linux on my desktops for 10 years. But I am the only one doing
that in our company.
Heh...Find a better job. ;)
This is not a Windows product...thank heaven.
Yes, that is a plus if you are a UNIX company. But that was not my point.
Right, your point was complaining that this UNIX product doesn't cater to
Windows as much as you'd like it to.
-Dave
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