On Sun, 24 Oct 2010, Roland Sassen wrote:
Do you have a proposal how to promote the Oracle Sun Ray?
As a former Sun Ray zealot I find this hilarious!
This is the beginning of the end. (</drama>)
It was hard during the Sun days cause nobody wanted to go from Windows to
Solaris. And the ones serious about Solaris on the desktop already knew
about Sun Ray and were probably using it already.
I know of a BIG university here (no names) that ran Sunray1 with Solaris
and badly wanted an upgrade. But they were looking at PCs with Ubuntu. I
was just about to go over there and install a demo for them with Red Hat
promising them that Sun is just about to launch Ubuntu support. They were
interested.
Every time I gave a demo to someone they saw that it was cheaper, easier
administration and the powersavings just blew them away!
"Let's just wait and see if Sun can figure out how to make the USB stick
work in Linux."
"Nah, we want Ubuntu - but we like the pricetag"
(FYI, Chrome still doesn't work in RHEL)
--
Today it is a totally different story.
You have the SunRay 3 + SW support + HW support and after a couple of
years it is more expensive than a macbook for everybody. (And a macbook
for everybody = no administration)
I would love to go on zealot missions but right now I don't believe in
this myself.
My reseller just gave me his last Sun Ray 2:s second hand, CHEAP!
He is muscled out from the business by Oracle, all his clients are left
hanging. And now Oracle wonders how to get new customers...
Besides, we don't need any more zealots than Brad Lackey of Oracle.
--
Do you want serious suggestions on how to promote Oracle Sun Ray?
STOP KILLING THE FANS!
Back when I started with Sun Ray I was sceptic, but given a couple of
demos I was convinced. But every reseller, technician, boss and
middle-management person I know who got me into Sun Ray technology already
left the ship, in august, when this flaming began. I mean, they really
left!
Every friend I have who was into Sun Ray or was about to, quit.
At the moment I don't know anyone outside this list that runs Sun Ray.
(So I feel bad giving you guys the negative tone, cause you're all I got
*tear* ;) )
I know technicians on big sites (4000 users or more) that were considering
Sun Ray this year but not any more.
I'm an admin at a research institute (my opinions doesn't necessarily
speak for my workplace all the time) and my friends are admins at
commersial places. Whenever I do something new (like we enabled IPv6 on
everything a couple of years ago) my friends laugh at me and say "it is
always a reserch institute that is first, but it is nice to have a case
study". We meet for beers every now and then and we talk about work.
What shall I tell them next time we meet? "Hey Alex, I remember you run
Sun Ray, how did the Oracle/SUN merger affect that, my boss was wondering
about Sun Ray the other day..."
-- Alexander
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