On Oct 25, 2010, at 8:54 AM, David Bullock wrote: > I can't talk much to the latest pricing of the DTU's and associated > licensing, except to note that the recent 'product use rights' from Microsoft > requires that virtualised desktop OS's only be accessed from a device which > also has a Windows OS on it - or else one is up for 'VDA' license just a few > dollars *more* than a full licence for Windows. So Oracle can't entirely be > blamed for the shift in viability of the solution as a whole. (The > commonly-used Wyse/HP/et-al terminals generally have an OEM Windows CE on > them and dodge this hit ... and actually suggests something that Oracle could > do (license WinCE OEM without using it!) ... to increase the attractiveness > of the solution pricing).
When doing VDI or WTS/RDS from a thin client, Microsoft requires server side licenses. Period. There is no free lunch here, there is no avoiding paying MS for developing software that we use. There are certainly several routes and options for licensing data center MS products for consumption by a remote client so don't get confused. -RDS/TS requires a RDS Client Access License regardless of accessing device. If you are accessing from a Windows PC, this additionally requires a Windows OS license, typically a Server CAL and Software Assurance for Windows OS. When accessing from a Thin client (Oracle, HP, etc.) there is typically no other Microsoft licenses required, but each vendor has licenses and support that they sell for their devices, their firmware and thir respective managing servers/services. -VDI requires a Virtual Enterprise Centralized Desktop (VECD) license regardless of accessing device type (Windows or otherwise). This license comes is several flavors depending on what type of Client you are accessing the centralized desktop with. This is the part that is confusing to most people. If you are accessing from a Windows PC which currently already has the Windows OS license and Software Assurance for Windows OS (and typically a Server CAL), you need to purchase VECD for Software Assurance. If you are accessing through a thin client that is not covered with Software Assurance for Windows OS you need to purchase the standard VECD license. Obviously Microsoft has priced the VECD SA lower than the VECD as they have already hit you up for other licenses and recurring agreements. -Additionally, it's almost impossible to make general comparisons of what people are actually paying for all this MS licensing as most are negotiated individually and MS will discount different categories of these based on what else you have purchased, etc. Brad Brad Lackey | Technical Enablement Manager Phone: +1 3038758616 Oracle Global Desktop Virtualization San Diego, CA
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