> Once that's done we can move on to the more likely culprits.
I've already gone through connections several times.  Not the problem.

> First I'd back the card down to the rated speed of 450 using a slower
> bus speed.

For the last week or so I have been running this 450 zif at 448 with a bus
speed of 56.  No decrease in crashing.

> Second you didn't tell us what speed you are trying to run the backside cache
> at.  What version of the XLR8 software are you using?

I've been runing the backside at the factory default of 222.2   Am using
MachSpeed Control v. 2.6.1.  The newest.  Also am using the standard card
not MpE.
> 
> 
> I have found that most often when you have problems like this after
> moving to a faster processor it is a problem with one of the sticks of
> ram not being able to run at the faster speeds needed by the new Zif.
> Have you tested your ram? Have you tried de-interleaving?

I THINK WE HAVE B-I-N-G-O!  I had just evolved to this same conclusion.

Yesterday morning I had removed the one remaining stick of 128 mb 'Tall
Ram'.  This clearly took care of the cold start monitor delay and the
problems running Quicktime 6.

As of this morning, I backed the cpu down one more notch, down to 445 mhz
and a bus of 55.6 Mhz.  Since then, I haven't had a crash all day. :)  Knock
on wood.  Funny that a measly 3 Mhz can make such a big difference.

If all goes well, my guess is, not only did I max my bus speed as one
factor, but the infamous 'Tall Rams' are clearly of a slower 'nano per sec'
then thought, so they were hamstringing the cpu's speed requirements.  As
reiterated by Harbourmaster, it is something others might consider if they
are having problems.  (John Hobbs have you looked into this possibility for
your 360Mhz limitation with the 450 Formac?)  While its still too early to
tell, I'll bet if things remain stable from here on out, I won't be able to
put the Tall Ram back in without causing instability again.  In fact, after
a few days of stable running at 445Mhz, I may just try this to be certain.

When my first stick of Tall Ram went bad over a month ago, symptoms were
obvious during cold start.  It failed miserably during various Software
Memory Tests too.  This second Tall Ram I have however doesn't even raise a
red flag on any of the tests, but clearly it is problematic.  In fact it is
probably just fine for a slower processor as it was with my 300Mhz.  Dan_A,
you have a couple of Tall Rams in your machine, if you are running a G3 over
say 400-450, are you having any similar symptoms?

Anyway, I'll give it through tomorrow to be certain but I think this may do
it.  

Thanks,

Dave





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