At 05:20 PM 1/26/03 -0000, you wrote:
>> I was just in a mood and giving you a poke.
>
>Ah, fair enough; I must remember to return the favour sometime.  *grin*

Sorry, at times I can't resist the temptation. ;-)

[...]
>> There has been an attempt to clarify this on FIDO recently.  Linux users
>> 'testing' Knoppix for minimum installs have existing Linux swap files
>> onboard and Knoppix will detect this file and use it.

[...]
>> Knoppix has a way to create a
>> VM swapfile on a FAT partition but as yet no one has mentioned if this will
>> execute at the start to aid those with no swap file and not enough memory
>> or this is 'after the fact' and therefore of little use to those with
>> limited memory. :-)
>
>I'll give that a go as well and let you know.

I would appreciate any additional information that I can add to my "Knoppix"
webpage.  I don't want to send people up the wrong alley.

>> I guess I should get out more and peek into dumpsters huh?  I wonder at
>> times why people 'see' this and walk away.

[...]
> To be fair, a lot of the
>things I see being junked are advertised on the second-hand newsgroups
here --
>"Free to good home or we're taking them down the scrapheap" basically.

I don't see that around here. :-\

>> When I was told to toss an AT&T 6300 into a dumpster I put it
>> in my car, got a signed letter saying it was 'salvage', and used
>> it for 15 years after that.
>
>Yep, I've done similar in the past --
[...]
>Haven't used the 1640 since I last released an update to the GEM Desktop
>(August 2000 I think) and haven't needed to use an 8086 since then.  Shame
>really.

I was depressed when the AT&T finally got beyond the point of repair
with reasonable effort.  I had three of them and was swapping parts.

>> With recent motherboards having onboard sound, video, etc. I would
>> guess they are being dumped when these fail and there aren't enough
>> slots or a way to disable the onboard functions and replace them.  In
>> a sense these are 'junk' but they were junk when they were manufactured
>> IMO.
>
>I agree; my current workstation has integrated audio (thankfully the video is
>on a AGP card) and network (although that's a good chipset and I've added
>another card in the meantime quite happily), and if the audio fails I'm not
>sure if I can add a new card.  Certainly couldn't use the integrated speaker
>off it, as far as I can tell.  Again, a shame, but this machine will be good
>for years to come (dual-processor kit is *very* nice, and it's SCSI
throughout
>too).

Sounds good so far.

>> We _may_ have alternatives some day to use more efficient hardware if the
>> bloat and ineffiencies of Intel platforms becomes more obvious to everyone.
>> I know, overly optimistic, but I can dream?
>
>I quite agree; the ever-increasing clock speeds are evidence enough IMO.

I always thought the clock speeds would make this obvious but instead users
are 'overjoyed' at each new faster CPU. :-\

Heat being the 'enemy' of electronics you would think this would make people
have second thoughts.  I guess awareness of electronics is not wide-spread.

[...]
>Perhaps when Itanium finally surfaces it'll show 64-bit x86 is a lot
>more resource-intensive than, say, the UltraSPARC chips, and then we'll find
>people thinking twice about building Intel-based machines.

I had expected more from Motorola.  Haven't heard much about Motorola since
they stopped selling modems.  Texas Instruments fouled up the QC on a gov
contract and seems to have never fully recovered.


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