I'm not doubting you, but sometimes (at least in my case) I have to wait longer than I'd normally expect to wait for my computer to shut down (sometimes more than two minutes. I'm using Windows-8.1.

On 9/14/2015 2:44 PM, Mike wrote:
Hello

Pressing the button lightly often doesn't work after the loss of speech.

Mike.At 18:39 14/09/2015, you wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if mixing new versions with old versions is such a good idea. Control-alt w almost always works for me. And why are so many people doing a hard reboot? Just press the button lightly. My computer is designed to shut down normally. I no longer have to press control-escape and arrow down.

On 9/14/2015 1:16 PM, Josh Rivera via Talk wrote:
If you've been paying attention to most of the messages, concerning this instability issue, you'll notice that the hot key, control-alt-W, in many cases does not work to bring speech back again. It almost never works for me, and a hard reboot must be done to bring WE back. I've said it before,
and will say it again, WE-9, is the crashiest version of WE ever!
Josh




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Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:17 AM
To: Butch K; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode

Butch,

My experience has been the opposite of yours.  I was finding that the
new dynamic web pages were becoming more difficult if not impossible to
read until the new brows mode was released. It is true that there is a
minor stability issue with the new brows mode, but I know this issue is
being addressed.  Remember, you can always hit alt control W to restart
speech if it stops.  The new brows mode makes possible the reading of
constantly changing web content. Thank yew to the Window Eyes
development team!

Bob, K8LR, [email protected]

On 9/14/2015 9:32 AM, Butch K via Talk wrote:
Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and it was
fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, W did nothing. I had to do a
cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for a couple of weeks, I had to
uninstall it and go back to an earlier version. This time I installed 8.4,
and it works as well as when I was running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the
benefits of the new browse mode, I would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never been this disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional
that it should be in beta.
Butch


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