Thanks for the reminder, and, since moving to my new Windows 10 machine,
forgot to put this shortcut on my desktop. smile

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
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Of net bat via Talk
Sent: September 14, 2015 11:55 AM
To: Butch K <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode

some times you have to do a clean install not a upgrade. also some of the
set 
files were out of date. includeing firefox and i e.
w e 9.2 is the latest version and it did have some bug fixes over w e 9.1.
the only problems i have had so far is with firefox.
w e and firefox will hang when i open the bookmark list  in this case
control 
alt w will not close w e until the two unhang.
if i turn off autoload before i open the bookmark list it works fine .
without 
hanging.
***
i use a batch file to shut down w e with a command line. this is independent
of 
the w e hot keys to reload. the /k command will kill w e.
"C:\Program Files (x86)\GW Micro\Window-Eyes\wineyes.exe" /k
this will shut down w e completely most of the time.
then you can reload with the regular hot keys.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Butch K via Talk
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 6:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: stability versus new browse mode

Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and it was 
fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse mode 
could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of wineyes. It kept 
freezing up while I was on the web doing the same tasks as I had done while 
running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, W did nothing. I had to do a
cold 
boot everytime. After using 9.1 for a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it

and go back to an earlier version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works
as 
well as when I was running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new 
browse mode, I would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a
waste 
of money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen reader. I

have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never been this 
disappointed. The new browse mode is so dysfunctional that it should be in 
beta.

Butch


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