Yes because if you try to shut down the system you will get an error message letting you know that x program is still running and preventing windows from shutting down. You then have the options to shut down any way. Of course you have no speech so you will not see this message. Hth
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:45 AM To: Nick Sarames <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode Hello Pressing the button lightly often doesn't work after the loss of speech. Mike.At 18:39 14/09/2015, you wrote: >I'm beginning to wonder if mixing new versions with old versions is >such a good idea. Control-alt w almost always works for me. And why >are so many people doing a hard reboot? Just press the button lightly. >My computer is designed to shut down normally. I no longer have to >press control-escape and arrow down. > >On 9/14/2015 1:16 PM, Josh Rivera via Talk wrote: >>If you've been paying attention to most of the messages, concerning >>this instability issue, you'll notice that the hot key, control-alt-W, >>in many cases does not work to bring speech back again. It almost >>never works for me, and a hard reboot must be done to bring WE back. >>I've said it before, and will say it again, WE-9, is the crashiest version of WE ever! >>Josh >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Talk >>[mailto:[email protected]] On >>Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk >>Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:17 AM >>To: Butch K; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode >> >>Butch, >> >>My experience has been the opposite of yours. I was finding that the >>new dynamic web pages were becoming more difficult if not impossible >>to read until the new brows mode was released. It is true that there >>is a minor stability issue with the new brows mode, but I know this >>issue is being addressed. Remember, you can always hit alt control W >>to restart speech if it stops. The new brows mode makes possible the >>reading of constantly changing web content. Thank yew to the Window >>Eyes development team! >> >>Bob, K8LR, [email protected] >> >>On 9/14/2015 9:32 AM, Butch K via Talk wrote: >>>Hello, I had been using a windows 7 laptop running wineyes 7.5, and >>>it was >>fairly stable. When I finally upgraded to wineyes 9.1, the new browse >>mode could not perform the same tasks as the earlier version of >>wineyes. It kept freezing up while I was on the web doing the same >>tasks as I had done while running wineyes 7.5. Pressing control, alt, >>W did nothing. I had to do a cold boot everytime. After using 9.1 for >>a couple of weeks, I had to uninstall it and go back to an earlier >>version. This time I installed 8.4, and it works as well as when I was >>running wineyes 7.5. So, to get the benefits of the new browse mode, I >>would have to sacrifice stability. For me, wineyes 9 was a waste of >>money. I can't even use it. I mean what good is a silent screen >>reader. I have been using wineyes since the 1990's, and I have never >>been this disappointed. 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