> I can feel some more late nights ahead.
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I only have rare opportunities to help out in the TiddlyVerse - I am
usually the recipient of Eric's, FND's and others' kind help
I put your questions into the my questionnaire TW [1] - I hope they
might be of some help to you or anyone else.

Psychology, Linking, Tags and TiddlyWiki
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Interesting to be made aware of Wilfred Bion. I'll have a look at his stuff.


Alex

[1] http://r.a.hough.googlepages.com/StrengthsandDifficultiesQuestionnai.html



The final point in your comment is
> particularly relevant and interesting to me - about the APPLIED side
> of TW's as opposed to (or //alongside//, rather) the technical
> developments that mostly leave me scratching my head at present
> (though I have high hopes...)
>
> I have been playing with the content of my TiddlyWiki manual for a
> long time now, but certainly would not claim any specific competencies
> (at all!) in the programming side of things; rather, it is the
> APPLICATION of this elegantly different writing format that fascinates
> me, and what it can bring to real life tasks, like running a team who
> are trying to do a complex set of tasks better, and in a more joined-
> up way.
>
> I am fascinated in the way that TW works not just as an *analytical*
> tool (splitting a complex area up into branches/tags, much as a 'mind
> map' can do on paper) but that simultaneously it works as an
> *integrative* tool (linking distant branches/twigs) so that I
> sometimes envisage the web of information in a TW as being 3-
> dimensional:  Tags spreading out over the surface of a sphere, Links
> diving through the core to their targets, though of course this is too
> simple in reality.
>
> Hence I am very interested in rather abstract notions such as "What,
> precisely (semantically and pragmatically, that is), is a link, and a
> tag?" and "what does non-linearity offer to the reader and writer that
> more conventional linear text forms lack? - and what do we risk losing
> by not having a linear statement of an argument?"  Clearly this is a
> Both-And rather than an Either-Or situation.  No doubt others have
> thought long and hard about these questions already, and I would be
> most interested if there are any pointers to where I can connect up
> with this conversation.
>
> There is a seminal paper (1959) in the field of psychoanalysis by a
> British analyst called Wilfred Bion titled "Attacks on Linking", and
> to summarise this very complex and dense piece of writing, he is
> saying that unconscious processes (which might be construed as having
> a "vested interest" in remaining unconscious) "conspire" to keep apart
> material that could and probably "should" be linked in the mind
> ("Don't bore me with the facts, I like my story the way it is!").  I
> think this goes for a great deal of the different schools of
> psychology and psychotherapy, as well as the neurosciences, which
> until recently have ploughed surprisingly separate furrows, without
> paying very much attention to links that are (or almost certainly
> should be) present.  A generous understanding of this is that
> researchers have been focussed on their own skills and areas of
> interests, and that the branches of the "tree of knowledge" have
> extended out so quickly over the past 100years that common fruits on
> separate twigs have been easily overlooked, not least because the
> technology to suggest, explore and make links between, say, cognitive-
> behavioural theories and those of psychoanalysis, have been lacking.
> On the other hand, most of us would also recognise that (mainly
> unconscious) things like envy, empire-building and straightforward
> protectionism (academic and economic) have played their part, too.
>
> This is very much the theoretical position that IMP (Integrative
> Multimodal Practice - the therapeutic stance that we are manualizing
> in TW) tries to take - that paying more conscious attention to the
> links between theories and practical applications is very powerful in
> terms of providing a better integrated (and thereby *integrative* for
> the poor client and family) service. In IMP we do that via two
> significant routes; firstly by training keyworkers in the basics of a
> whole range of evidence-based interventions (that have traditionally
> been "owned" by different professional groups), and secondly by using
> TW as the manualization allowing/promoting/sustaining this linking,
> and encouraging local team edits to the manual to create a marriage of
> "top-down" expert material with "bottom-up" local expertise.
>
> To get back to the point of TiddlyWiki (given that this is the TW
> group!) there seem to be features embedded within TW that suit it
> quite uniquely for the job:
>
> - its self-contained-ness, so that there can be clear editorial
> control over content, rather than a free-for-all.
> - the ease of basic editing so that non-experts can adopt it ...even
> technophobes (perhaps a little way to go to fully realise this!)
> - the lack of expensive additional (desk- or server-bound) software
> that any health service would baulk at paying for/maintaining.
> - the size of a tiddler; by which I mean that a tiddler is "bite-
> sized" rather than a full essay, and this makes the document
> approachable from a user's perspective.
>
> I have strayed from the original topic of Forms, and have changed the
> title to reflect this.
>
> Best,
>
> Dickon
>
> On Apr 18, 9:13 am, Alex Hough <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dickton,
>>
>> I make no claim for the questions on the questionnaire. That credit
>> goes to Tudor Rickards [1]. The questions are part of his "Team Factor
>> Inventory" for creative teams, documented in Handbook for Creative
>> Team Leaders [2]  The  TW is a work in progress for the teaching of
>> creativity and creative leadership, and helping creativity and
>> creative leadership in organisations.
>>
>> Credit for the TW plugings: Eric and Udo for the story plugin and Udo
>> for the forms and for each tiddler.
>>
>> You are welcome to change the questions and adapt the TW for your own use.
>>
>> If anyone has any ideas / suggestions on how to make the questionnaire
>> [3] more user friendly and appear more attractive, I would be very
>> interested to read them.
>>
>> Finally, thanks for the compliment on a my TW! It's sometimes heavy
>> going being a TiddlyAdvocate in a 'real' world where the mention of a
>> tiddler raises eyebrows.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tudor_Rickards
>> [2]Rickards, T. & Moger, S., 1999. Handbook for Creative Team Leaders,
>> Gower Publishing Company.
>>  Amazon.com Link. Available at:http://www.amazon.com/dp/0566080516
>> [Accessed January 8, 2009].
>> [3] ttp://r.a.hough.googlepages.com/TFI.html
>>
>> 2009/4/17 dickon <[email protected]>:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > That is great, Alex.  The Likert scale is exactly the kind of thing I
>> > would need to use.  Your questionnaire is very thought-provoking too,
>> > and I like the way it generates instant feedback with traffic-light
>> > gradings!
>>
>> > Thanks,
>>
>> > Dickon
>>
>> > On Apr 17, 10:59 am, Alex Hough <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Hi Dickton
>>
>> >> I am working on two quesionaires, the most complete and most simple is
>> >> on the web [1]
>> >> Its work in development.
>>
>> >> The second is more 'in development but more complex. The order of the
>> >> questions depends on previous answers. I am working with a proper IT
>> >> professional using an method which focuses on user involovement. I can
>> >> show you this one as well in due course, but there is some bugs in the
>> >> system at the moment.
>>
>> >> Best Wishes
>> >> Alex
>> >> [1]http://r.a.hough.googlepages.com/TFI.html
>> >> ps. coincidentally I am working in mental health. another of my TW
>> >> projects is on a NHS creativity in mental health project.
>>
>> >>http://r.a.hough.googlepages.com/TFI.html
>>
>> >> 2009/4/16 dickon <[email protected]>:
>>
>> >> > Thankyou Mark.  My HTML is definitely not up to this job, but at least
>> >> > I have some pointers of where to head.  Entirely see your point about
>> >> > being both Nervous and Not nervous - both from an existential and a
>> >> > programming perspective!
>>
>> >> > Best,
>>
>> >> > Dickon
>>
>> >> > On 16 Apr, 17:54, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> Following some help from Eric Shulman, I wrote myself a routine that
>> >> >> collects information from an HTML form, runs it through a format
>> >> >> string, and places it somewhere inside of an existing tiddler.
>>
>> >> >> This kind of routine could probably be modified to create a brand new
>> >> >> tiddler with questionnaire results. I haven't posted it anywhere
>> >> >> (except once somewhere in this forum) but I could again if there is
>> >> >> interest.
>>
>> >> >> You would have to rewrite your quiz as a real HTML form, though. You
>> >> >> use checkboxes throughout, but radio buttons would be more
>> >> >> appropriate. As it is, someone could be simultaneously Nervous and
>> >> >> Certainly Not Nervous. You know, I've had days like that.
>>
>> >> >> In order to be useful for later processing, you would want to think
>> >> >> about how the results are organized. I'm guessing that putting each
>> >> >> answer into a slice would be most appropriate
>>
>> >> >> q1: 1 <answer is 1 to 3>
>> >> >> q2: 3
>> >> >>  ...
>>
>> >> >> In any event, the final results need to be in some format that TW can
>> >> >> easily grab. There are also sections, data fields and the <data>
>> >> >> plugin, but to me this seems most easy to edit any mistakes.
>>
>> >> >> And of course, each questionnaire would be tagged as "SDQResults" (or
>> >> >> something).
>>
>> >> >> Then you could write, or have written a routine in a tiddler that
>> >> >> would process each tiddler, and apply whatever process you want
>> >> >> (sorry, I didn't look at your PDF).
>>
>> >> >> Just some thoughts,
>>
>> >> >> -- Mark
>>
>> >> >> On Apr 15, 4:11 pm, dickon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > Hi.  following on from my intro about the TiddlyManual project the
>> >> >> > other day (novel manualization of psychiatry/psychotherapy
>> >> >> > interventions), I have two more specific and technical questions.
>>
>> >> >> > First, I'd like to be able to make forms out of a tiddler so that the
>> >> >> > user can type information straight in without having to switch to the
>> >> >> > edit mode (whcih would scare the most technophobic therapists!) - I 
>> >> >> > am
>> >> >> > sure this can be done, but I can't work it out - sorry.
>>
>> >> >> > Then, I'd like to be able to sort out a simple algorithm to "score" a
>> >> >> > particular questionnaire called the SDQ (Strengths and difficulties
>> >> >> > Questionnaire -http://www.sdqinfo.com/questionnaires/english/c3.pdf).
>> >> >> > This is a very simple and mercifully short questionnaire that is
>> >> >> > surprisingly valid at highlighting clinical vulnerability in 
>> >> >> > children,
>> >> >> > and has been tried out on zillions of children worldwide; it also
>> >> >> > seems to pick up clinically-useful CHANGE over time (helping us
>> >> >> > measure whether we are doing any good or not).
>>
>> >> >> > The Q's are divided into a number of sub-sets that address specific
>> >> >> > symptom areas (Emotional symptoms, Conduct problems, Hyperactivity,
>> >> >> > Peer problems, and Pro-social features) and each Question is scored
>> >> >> > Not, Somewhat or Certainly true... so it is a question of assigning
>> >> >> > certain scores to certain tick-boxes (see the scoring system 
>> >> >> > here:http://www.sdqinfo.com/ScoreSheets/e2.pdf) , and also assigning
>> >> >> > certain sets of tick-boxes to the different symptom areas.  Ideally
>> >> >> > I'd generate a score at the end that consists of sub-scores within
>> >> >> > each of the symptom areas mentioned above.
>>
>> >> >> > I can make the boxes 
>> >> >> > (seehttp://burningchrome.com:8090/bags/IMP/tiddlers.wiki
>> >> >> > and search SDQ to see where I've got to...), but getting into the
>> >> >> > further details required to generate a score defeats me!
>>
>> >> >> > Best wishes,
>>
>> >> >> > Dickon Bevington
>>
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>>
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> >
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