Even on the desktop, TiddlyDesktop has complications that most every-day 
users would find unacceptable. 
If you close out a single-file window, the only way to get it back is to 
close out ALL your windows, and the 
instance (which may need to be killed with the process manager), and then 
restart. That's too much, 
when all you wanted was to clear the clutter out of your toolbar.

There is no universal solution because each solution attempts to put a 
round peg into a polygonal hole, in some regards.

Javascript is the peg, and the various platforms and approaches are the 
holes. A solution that works for one, won't
work for another.

What we really need is a hacked browser that doesn't have the save 
limitation built in. In essence, that's
what you're doing on Android with the Android savers. Perhaps the browser 
would be prevented from
browsing the web (because that is dangerous), but it would open up all the 
other possibilities you get
when using a browser.

Actually, it's probably just a tiny part of the 32 million lines of code in 
modern browsers that regulate 
how saving works. And there's multiple projects based on hacking current 
browsers. 

-- Mark



On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 2:08:28 AM UTC-8, bimlas wrote:

> TonyM,
>
> The main problem is that there are different operating systems and 
> browsers, so you can't create a "generic" saver plugin: each system will 
> need different code to automatically save the wiki, and not all of them can 
> be implemented (because of restrictions to access the filesystem).
>
> I think the Timmimi plugin (or similar) should be upgraded to work in 
> every browser, as this is the easiest solution to use: just open the wiki 
> and it saves the changes automagically. Of course, the problem is that it 
> only works on the desktop, for example, you may not be able to install 
> browser add-ons on Android.
>
> Another option is to write the wiki to a location that is accessible on 
> all systems: this is browser local storage, but it is not perfect either 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#BrowserStorage%20Plugin>.
>
> The third option is to save it to an online location (GitHub, GitLab) 
> because it works with all browsers and operating systems, but this requires 
> the Internet, and you may not even want to save your notes online.
>
> I'm afraid that the main problem, not with TiddlyWiki, but with the 
> interoperability of browsers and operating systems, is something we can't 
> change. To improve this, TiddlyDesktop 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#BrowserStorage%20Plugin> was created, which is 
> only available on desktop, not on Android.
>
> Anyway, this is a problem for which there is no solution, because the 
> limitations are outside our system.
>

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