What I would love to see is a tree of downloads where each one gains more and more features (it is additive). Such as:
JSR-154 Implementation / \ Jasper Velocity / \ \ Admin Tool (JMX) Java Server Feces Scarab That way, you only need to download what you need. Bundles are easily created by simply picking off the branch of the tree that you want. If you want the "Tomcat" distribution with web based administration abilities, then you grab it at the "Admin Tool" level and so on. We can even build an ant based system which is able to help us manage the selection of components to include in the distribution. This would be similar to the way that we currently have jar repositories and dependencies, but on an application level. "Click here to install Jasper, Struts, etc." Not only does this provide our users the ability to simply get what they need (and add it after the fact if they don't have it), it helps us focus on providing a pluggable system which is separate from the other systems (ie: clean dependencies). I personally think that this is a much cleaner way of providing distributions because it does not require people to learn or deal with things they do not care about. Options are a good thing. Let's not limit ourselves. One last point, we should be able to experiment around here. The negative votes have been based on biases about what I think about Jasper and my opinions. They are not based on the idea that experimentation is a good thing and I think that is just plain wrong and very closed minded. Who are you to decide what our users may or may not like? In the end, if things don't work out, then fine at least we learned something and we can move on to the next thing. What do we really have to loose here? -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>