Hi everyone :) Thanks for your reply, Leonardo.
On 09/06/2007, at 7:32 AM, Leonardo Fontenelle wrote:
Please take a look at this site, and see if it could meet your needs. http://vp.godoy.homeip.net/ The interface is in Portuguese, but the engine could be easily extended to serve multiple languages. "Buscar" means "Search", and after clicking it "Term" is were you enter the word in English. I bet Chahibi has enough skills for navigating by himself on the page :) To search directly from the URL field: http://vp.godoy.homeip.net/busca/?termo=WORD To add the search engine to Firefox: click on "VP no Firefox" (Standard Vocabulary on Firefox).Although it doesn't export PO files yet, the feature was already tested.I'm not sure if this would be the best tool to manage the list of English words, but it is great to store and retrieve the translations.
This is a great resource. :)We had something similar for Vietnamese, but it broke down when the admin was no longer available. That's why we now use Wiktionary as a central technical dictionary.
However, the initial purpose of the terminology project was to create terminology files for Pootle. (Pootle uses the base file, ≤1000 items, already.) The files can also be used on servers like yours, but to start with, I'd like to test them on Pootle.
I've spent the last couple of days working on some of Youssef's files, translating the items into Vietnamese, and comparing the files with my own personal dictionary, which has grown since I contributed its items to Youssef's files.
(It is interesting how diverse the vocabulary in software can be. My personal dictionary, composed only from translation strings, contains a lot of economic terms (accounting programs etc.), plus some health terms (an exercise program) and a wide range of items from all sorts of other different programs.)
I've added quite a few items to Youssef's files, but also removed some. Some of the removed items were so technical that they belong more in FOLDOC or Wiktionary than in a vocab file. Others can simply be composed from base translations ("activity window" = "activity" + "window", in the order appropriate for the language), while yet ithers were simply other parts of speech for the same meaning.
I'm hoping Pootle will also search the comment fields for the terminology files. Can it do that, Pootle admins?
This would save space, since it means we can create items like: ___ # verb; adjective ; noun is \"completion\"; past tense is \"completed\" msgid "complete" msgstr "hoàn thành; hoàn tất (comment field in the translators' language, v.d.# động từ ; tính từ ; danh từ \"completion\"; thì quá khứ \"completed\"
msgid "complete" msgstr "hoàn thành, gõ xong; hoàn tất )In this string, the noun and adjective are the same word in English, so we translate the same item in two different ways, separated by a semi-colon.
Multiple translations for the same part of speech are separated by a comma. Here, there are two ways of translating the verb "complete".
In the comments field, the two types of translation are identified as "verb; adjective"; then the noun is quoted, and the past tense.
This means only having to create _one_ string, to handle several different ways of expressing or translating the root word.
That will reduce the size of the terminology files, and their combined size.
Can the terminology feature in Pootle also search the comment field?I've completed (sic) the first three files (A, B, C), but thought I should check how Pootle will handle the files, before I go on.
It would also be good to have a central site/repository where we can store these terminology files, so they can be updated readily, and so if the person maintaining them for that language becomes unavailable, others can still access the files.
from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do)
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN
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