The guy who posted the youtube video (AND others who have said the same 
thing on the net) have had experiences that differ from yours.  If your 
battery has outperformed theirs, good for you.  That price that comes close 
to a new iPhone is the cost of shipping, the battery itself, the service 
from the techs, and maybe the shipping back, iow, the total package.  If 
you can purchase a battery on your own and do it yourself, great.  Most 
people won't want to try it.
What are you able to do more efficiently on an iPhone?  With the stagnation 
of the Palm OS and being aggresively unimpressed with their newer products, 
I'm keeping an eye out for something better.  I just haven't found it yet.

...... Original Message .......
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 03:27:16 -0000 "rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>to be perfectly honest, i don't know why i'm still on this list, because i 
dumped my sprint 
>treo 650 for an iPhone on june 30, 2007. i was slightly unhappy at the 
loss of 3rd party 
>apps at first, but the overall package was so superior to the treo that it 
wasnt long before 
>i was happy again. and once the dev team figured out the jailbreak and 
people started 
>developing apps, i was *very* happy. and now with the app store, there are 
loads of 
>interesting applications available. i can do things more efficently with 
the iPhone than i 
>ever could do with the treo.
>
>anyway, where can you get a new iphone for $85.95? i'd like to know.
>
>http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/
>
>as i said i've had the iPhone for a year and the battery is still going 
strong. it holds the 
>same charge it did on the first day i owned it. apple is most certainly 
not engaging in 
>"malicious and predatory engineering." do you seriously think iPods and 
iPhones would be 
>as popular as they are if the batteries were a serious problem for people?
>
>i've owned 3 iPods and 2 iPhones and none of them have ever needed a 
battery replaced.
>
>use what works for you. the only ridiculous thing here is mindless and 
uninformed hating 
>on the iPhone.
>
>
>
>
>--- In [email protected], Scandals & Animals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, but the iPhone's battery seems engineered to last a year or less, 
requiring the user 
>to send it in for an expensive replacement, or preferably just purchase 
another iPhone.  
>That's apparently by design.  The replacement fee is almost as much as a 
new iPhone, and 
>then you're without a phone until they ship it back.  There's a video on 
youtube or similar 
>site made by a guy who called Apple and recorded it.  He asked how to 
change the battery 
>and was told he'd have to send it in, how much it would cost, etc.
>> 
>> That's not just ridiculous; it's malicious and predatory engineering and 
marketing.
>> 
>>  ..... Original Message .......
>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:24:32 -0400 "Harold M. Goldner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>> >I agree that the non-removable battery isn't that big of a deal.  I 
tend towards the 
>obsessive-compulsive, so I got a spare battery almost as soon as I got my 
first Treo, but I 
>had used Palms with nonremovable batteries for 9 years before that, and 
Zauri for 5 or 
>more before that.
>> >
>> >And I've even cracked an ipod or two to refresh the battery or drive.
>> >
>> >Harold
>> >
>> >
>> > ..... Original Message .......
>> >On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:15:00 -0400 Levi Wallach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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