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Hi again,

I listened right through that Level 5 tape & oh brother - it used up a LOT of 
my brain function & I am paying for it now.

First thing I need to clarify & that is the context in which Dennis is using 
the term "Pan Determined".  I am quite familiar with the Scientology definition 
of "Pan Determinsm" but cannot quite fit it to Dennis's context.  

He is describing the postulates of "Other" as Pan Determined.  But I can't work 
out how you can fit the Scn definition to that.  As per the dictionary #2. 
"defined as determining the activities of two or more sides in a game 
simultaneously & #3. the ability to regulate the considerations of two or more 
identities, whether or not opposed & #4 full responsibility for both sides of a 
game.

To my understanding, these definitions apply to the "self" assuming a "pan 
determined" viewpoint of "another".  So how can an "other's" postulate be 
called "pan determined" - it appears to me that his viewpoint or postulate (not 
100% clear on this concept either) would to himself appear "self determined".

Oh dear, any assistance greatly appreciated ...

PJ

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