Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
michael douglas wrote:
Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
michael douglas wrote:
> >>Michael D: Dave H, I am interested in finding out how did God become a man,DAVEH: I don't have a definitive answer, Michael. But if you want me to speculate, I would say our Heavenly Father became exalted in the same way his Only Begotten Son became exalted.
DAVEH: Assuming you are referring to God the Father: As man is, God once was is a popular LDS belief.-Michael D: OK, But the critical question then would be how did Father become a man (understanding your position that he was such before becoming God). And can you give us LDS sources for this?
DAVEH: As far as I know, it is all a matter of speculation. I don't recall seeing any official comments. The assumption that God continues to reveal his secrets to his servants the prophets implies that there are most likely secrets to be revealed at any given time, assuming the Lord has not yet revealed all knowledge. Michael......My guess would be that the answer you are looking for may not be revealed until 'the end', if at all. Until then, it is a matter of speculation, IMO.
Michael D: Dave H., This is very interesting and equally disturbing to me. If there are no sources of scripture to support this 'speculation' then where does this whole theory about God first being a man then becoming God come from? How can one build their faith in a supposed eternal destiny on "assumption", "most likely", and "my guess" . It seems like a whole lot is based upon this, down to man's supposed destiny of becoming a god... How, would you say then this 'speculation' squares off with Ps 90:2 - '...even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.' Strong's indicates (5769) that 'everlasting' means always or eternity. So, can t he doctrine of God being once a man then being exalted ever be legit???Apart from the above, here is Deuteronomy 23:19 - 'God is not a man, that He should lie; neither the son of man that he should repent...' Now we know that Jesus is a man who has been exalted. (You alluded above that this made him God) There is a problem with applying that to the Father, because as Deut. 23 shows, He said He is not a man, which denies any claim to Him having been a man and exalted to His God status. Cf. Hosea 11:9.
Can you address the above for me...
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