Lance, I do not know if Kruger will take time to exchange thoughts and all, but my concern regarding the conditional passages of the gospel message has been dealt with in the following response to Judy. I am confortable with what I say in that paragraph -- because it allows the various "conditional" passages to stand as they are written while allowing that God has done all the hard work. Correct amundo??
Jd
In a message dated 9/30/2004 9:13:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"Conditions," as I am now discovering, are sign posts along the Way. In the beginning, I was a babe in Christ -- knowing nothing and living a life without the full benefit of the abundance God has promised. As time goes by, we begin to respond to these "conditions."
I learned "belief," beginning in 1997 and that continues to this day. But I was "saved" in 1957. I know more about the image of God than I did five months ago and now work to be like Him in terms of my commitment to my fellow man. In the beginning, I was fascinated with the Lord. Today, I love Him and all that He is and wants to be in me. Few saints meet these "conditions" in the same order or at the same time in their spiritual lives. None are lost before the "condition" is fully "obeyed" or even mildly understood.

