Hi John, you write:
jt: I'm not arguing with scripture John; I referenced this scripture and Izzy wrote it 
out. What actions do you refer
to here?

No action in mind.   But I will say this:  no scripture speaks  for itself apart from 
context.   They were not written in our language.   Much of scriture was not addressed 
to us in modern times. 

jt: My belief is that "ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God and is good for 
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness..." 

No scripture was written by one who is analytical in his thinking or systematic in his 
theology.   None.   We are just that  -- analytical and given to systems theology.   

jt: And this is where our culture misses it. The scriptures are spiritual in nature 
rather than systematic and analytical and they need to be understood spiritually.

If I might be allowed this term - "converse theology."  That would be assuming that 
each biblical statement has an opposite and converse truth.  The Oriental mind did not 
think this way.   When Jesus says, if you love me, you will keep my commandments.  
Converse theology would argue that sin (commandment violations) is evidence that we do 
not love the Lord.........when, of course, that is not true.  

jt: It is true and this is exactly what Jesus meant when He originally made this 
statement. 

Anyway, all of this goes into understanding the meaning of a passage of thought 
written in another language, to a different mind set in a very different time. 

jt: God is transcendent (read all of the Godhead) and the Holy Spirit is not limited 
by time, culture, language or mindset... so this verse is true in every generation.

Grace and Peace,
judyt 

John

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