Hi John, you write: jt: I'm not arguing with scripture John; I referenced this scripture and Izzy wrote it out. What actions do you refer to here?
No action in mind. But I will say this: no scripture speaks for itself apart from context. They were not written in our language. Much of scriture was not addressed to us in modern times. jt: My belief is that "ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God and is good for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness..." No scripture was written by one who is analytical in his thinking or systematic in his theology. None. We are just that -- analytical and given to systems theology. jt: And this is where our culture misses it. The scriptures are spiritual in nature rather than systematic and analytical and they need to be understood spiritually. If I might be allowed this term - "converse theology." That would be assuming that each biblical statement has an opposite and converse truth. The Oriental mind did not think this way. When Jesus says, if you love me, you will keep my commandments. Converse theology would argue that sin (commandment violations) is evidence that we do not love the Lord.........when, of course, that is not true. jt: It is true and this is exactly what Jesus meant when He originally made this statement. Anyway, all of this goes into understanding the meaning of a passage of thought written in another language, to a different mind set in a very different time. jt: God is transcendent (read all of the Godhead) and the Holy Spirit is not limited by time, culture, language or mindset... so this verse is true in every generation. Grace and Peace, judyt John ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.

