Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of Jesus

[Judy Taylor]

jt: I'd like to see "he was fully human as we are" spelled out in some other way and places other than Romans 8:3. In the words of two or more witnesses should every word be established, also it should be plain from OT scripture and it is not.  "In the likeness of sinful flesh" means just what it says Problem is we are dull of hearing and not really aware of just how unclean we are or just how holy and selfless He is.  His sacrifice phony??   You mean the Creator, the God of glory condescending to even come here and walk among us was not a huge sacrifice?  Not to mention the abuse he endured; being willing to take the sin of the whole world upon himself as he hung naked on a sinners cross....     On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:26:27 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The crux of the debate is whether or not Jesus could have chosen to sin because he was in all ways tempted as we are, and was fully human as we are.  Otherwise and His sacrifice was phony, because it was much easier for Him to walk in obedience, because it was impossible for Him to have sinned. izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor   jt: Then the crux is choice just like it was in the garden - rather than the kind of flesh He was getting about in?   On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:08:35 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: You are correct and have proved my point.  Jesus could have chosen to sin.  However, He did not.  izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Any human is able to sin.  Having "sinful" flesh isn't a requirement.  The first Adam did not have sinful flesh and he managed - Jesus could have chosen the same way he did - and this doesn't make Him any less of a Savior & He is just as Wonderful -   judyt   On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 07:12:54 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Judy, if you don’t have sinful flesh you are not a man.  You are another creature altogether. Sinful flesh does NOT make one a sinner, or impure.  It makes one VULNERABLE to sin.  Sin is an ACT.  Every human being has succumbed to sinful acts because of our sinful, vulnerable flesh EXCEPT for Jesus.  THAT is what makes Him our Wonderful Savior!!!  Halleluia!!!   izzy     Judy wrote: Noone is arguing this point David, I think we all agree that he was a man. It is the "sinful" flesh that is causing the problem.