Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of Jesus

[Judy Taylor]

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:17:09 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: jt: They call it baptizing but they tell us in the class that whatever we want to call it is fine but basically it is a covenant between the parents God, and the ppl as a community of faith. Izzy: If you ask them point blank they will tell you that the PCA does believe in original sin, no matter what you choose to call it.  Otherwise they are not PCA.  That is why the PCA baptizes infants, among other reasons. That is why anyone baptizes infants to save them from going to hell because of original sin.   jt: Every infant has the opportunity to go to hell if they don't embrace the faith of their parents.  God will honor covenant but it is still their choice. I don't like to make rules for God. I think that the children of the righteous are sanctified; according to scripture the offspring of the wicked are not so blessed but we can rest in hope knowing that God is completely holy, righteous, and just and that He has done everything possible for us. Izzy: I did not ask you to make rules for God.    jt: Not saying or even implying that you did Izzy.   Izzy:  I asked what you believe God's rules are.    jt: I believe there is just one way to be accepted and that is for everyone.   Either you believe we are born sinful simply because we have human flesh before we ever actually sin, or you do not.  Which do you believe?   jt: Sounds like you have it all figured out Izzy. Yes I believe humankind are born with the taint of sin, we all deserve hell - There has been just one person since the fall who was born holy and walked free - You know who that is. As for babies.  That decision belongs with God. I am not going to pronounce them either lost or saved; it's Jesus' call.   I would appreciate a straight answer.  If you don't know which one you believe please say so.  Yes or No: Are you a sinner the moment you are born, worthy of hell? Please answer.  (Surely you don't think that depends upon who your parents are?) Thanks, izzy   I don't know.