David:Does the WE (as to the 'greater works') include YOU? I will accept as
utterly truthful the examples from your own life that you choose to include
as illustrations.
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: December 22, 2005 09:48
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who decides
David Miller wrote:
3. John 14:12
(12) Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth
on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and
greater works than these shall he do; because I
go unto my Father.
This passage in John indicates that faith results in
miraculous works on the part of the one who has it.
JD wrote:
In fact, miracles are the primary things eliminated from this passage.
Greater miracles than the Lord's are not possible.
Not possible? Jesus just taught us that they were possible in John 14:12.
JD wrote:
Revealing the mystery of the gospel to a whole world of
lost people, something that Jesus did not do in His personal
ministry, is what is view.
Certainly the work of spreading the gospel throughout the whole world is
greater than what Jesus did while here in his earthly ministry, but the
context of the John 14:12 passage concerns works that when examined should
cause faith that Jesus and the Father are in each other. He then leads us
to understand that he who believes in him would also do these same works
in
that they too will have the Father in them and they would be in the
Father.
The Biblical record itself gives us some examples of the greater miracles
done by those who believed in Jesus.
For example, where do we read that people were healed by just the shadow
of
Jesus touching them? This happened with Peter but not with Jesus.
Acts 5:15-16
(15) Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid
them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by
might overshadow some of them.
(16) There came also a multitude out of the cities round about unto
Jerusalem, bringing sick folks, and them which were vexed with unclean
spirits: and they were healed every one.
Where do we read that handkerchiefs or aprons taken from Jesus were
brought
to the sick and they were healed? We read this about Paul, but not with
Jesus.
Acts 19:11-12
(11) And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul:
(12) So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or
aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out
of them.
Are not these some examples of greater works than what Jesus did?
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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