Jon:
> > Does anyone have any info on how JCorporate's Expresso
> framework compares to
> > Turbine ?
I can certainly supply detailed comparison info if anyone is looking (we
have a comparison matrix on our site too - probably out of date for both
Expresso and Turbine!) - consider the source of course, but like to think I
look at all approaches impartially :-)
> > I've been developing with Turbine for almost a year, but now my
> > hype-controlled boss has discovered Expresso.
> > It looks a lot more complex and a lot less easy to use.... does
> anyone has any
> > experience with it ?
Only having done a few small applications with Turbine I cannot comment on
comparison of ease of use in large projects, although I'm sure many other
can - my only thought would be that in terms of getting an application up &
running one of our contributors to Expresso has a service (free) called
WebAppWriter - you feed it your specification and an Expresso application
(source of course) is generated for you - pretty quick to get up & going.
I think the two frameworks aim at a slightly different area technically -
although there is clearly some overlap in some areas.
> >
> > Age
>
> Expresso is a framework done by a "corporation" of one employee...Michael
> Nash.
No, we are hardly a corporation of one, nor is Expresso done by me alone -
the remainder of our over 30 core contributors would be quite suprised to
hear it :-) Jon, I think your info on me and my company might be rather out
of date!
There are indeed days when I *wish* it was just me in the corporation,
wouldn't life be simple then :-)
>
> :-)
>
> The best quote from the Enhydra site is:
>
> "One of the things that puzzles me about Expresso is that for an
> open-source
> framework that claims a community of more than 3000 developers,
> the mailing
> list is a mere trickle."
Our primary traffic is in our forums, but it's true that we don't have much
traffic on our general mailing list - we tend to take discussions to
individual forums for the details, but our forums also copy to email
addresses if you want them to.
I think part of it is also that by and large Expresso users are off
developing their own specific applications, not so much actually working on
Expresso itself - although that's changed recently (and list traffic went
way up) as of the major enhancements we're doing for our latest version.
> :-)
>
> Maybe Mr. Nash would like to comment as he is subscribed to this list. :-)
I think it's always interesting to compare different approaches, and I'd be
happy to describe more about Expresso and how it compares/differs from
Turbine to anyone that's interested. As always, it's just a matter of the
best tool for the job, and more choices is always better than less, right?
Please, anyone feel free to drop me a line for any details, I won't chew up
any more of everyone's valuable bandwidth!
Regards,
Mike
Jcorporate Ltd.
http://www.jcorporate.com
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