on 8/24/01 5:16 PM, "Michael Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I can certainly supply detailed comparison info if anyone is looking (we
> have a comparison matrix on our site too - probably out of date for both
> Expresso and Turbine!) - consider the source of course, but like to think I
> look at all approaches impartially :-)

Please! I think someone is looking.

> Only having done a few small applications with Turbine I cannot comment on
> comparison of ease of use in large projects, although I'm sure many other
> can - my only thought would be that in terms of getting an application up &
> running one of our contributors to Expresso has a service (free) called
> WebAppWriter - you feed it your specification and an Expresso application
> (source of course) is generated for you - pretty quick to get up & going.
> 
> I think the two frameworks aim at a slightly different area technically -
> although there is clearly some overlap in some areas.

We have the Turbine Developers Kit which includes sample applications.

> No, we are hardly a corporation of one, nor is Expresso done by me alone -
> the remainder of our over 30 core contributors would be quite suprised to
> hear it :-) Jon, I think your info on me and my company might be rather out
> of date!
> 
> There are indeed days when I *wish* it was just me in the corporation,
> wouldn't life be simple then :-)

I'm curious. How many full time paid employees does JavaCorporate employ?

> I think part of it is also that by and large Expresso users are off
> developing their own specific applications, not so much actually working on
> Expresso itself - although that's changed recently (and list traffic went
> way up) as of the major enhancements we're doing for our latest version.

Great!

> I think it's always interesting to compare different approaches, and I'd be
> happy to describe more about Expresso and how it compares/differs from
> Turbine to anyone that's interested. As always, it's just a matter of the
> best tool for the job, and more choices is always better than less, right?

I agree!

-jon


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