As a user and fellow developer I'm thrilled for Loren and what he's achieved...
As a Twitter API and iPhone developer I'm shocked and feel like it's a kick in the teeth to us all. On Apr 10, 5:59 am, funkatron <funkat...@gmail.com> wrote: > It is, of course, possible to find niches here, and we can of course > come up with ideas that could work. I certainly am not debating that. > > But you have to admit that this is a big, big bomb to drop in the > development community; bigger than anything since *maybe* the Summize > acquisition, and the whole shebang was a lot smaller then. And > Summize was doing work that most developers couldn't do, because of > the technical issues involved. > > And I might also suggest that choice and diversity is generally a good > thing, even in areas you personally find boring. But perhaps not in > the financial sense for Twitter, which is why stuff like this happens. > > It's not really just what was done, but *how* it was done that was > most disappointing. And I bet you didn't have anything to do with > that, so not much to say there. > > Actually, I suspect iTunes is a great analogy, even with the other > apps you suggest. iTunes did destroy any competition in the primary > music playback app market, and I believe (anecdotally though) that it > dominates the lowest common denominator market -- also the largest > part of the market. I'll be happy to buy you a drink when Spotify and > and last.fm combined hit 50% of iTunes usage. They are the niche apps > along the lines you suggest we should be making. > > -- > Ed Finklerhttp://funkatron.com > @funkatron > AIM: funka7ron / ICQ: 3922133 / XMPP:funkat...@gmail.com > > On Apr 10, 12:20 am, Raffi Krikorian <ra...@twitter.com> wrote: > > > > > the way that i usually explain twitter.com (the web site) is that it > > embodies one particular experience of "twitter". twitter.com needs to > > implement almost every feature that twitter builds, and needs to implement > > it in a way that is easy to use for the* lowest common denominator of user*. > > this now also holds for the iphone. so, one possible answer for how to > > innovate and do potentially interesting/lucrative/creative things is to > > simply not target the lowest common denominator user anymore. find a > > particular need, and not the generic need, and blow it out of the water. > > > what i am most interested in seeing is apps that break out of the mold and > > do things differently. ever since i joined the twitter platform, our team > > has built APIs that directly mirror the twitter.com experience -- 3rd party > > developers have taken those, and mimicked the twitter.com experience. for > > example, countless apps simply fetch timelines from the API and just render > > them. can we start to do more creative things? > > > i don't have any great potentials off the top of my head (its midnight where > > i am now, and i flew in on a red-eye last night), but here are a few > > potential ones. i'm sure more creative application developers can come up > > with more. i want to see applications for people that: > > > - don't have time to sit and watch twitter 24/7/365. while i love to > > scan through my timeline, frankly, that's a lot of content. can you > > summarize it for me? can you do something better than chronological > > sort? > > - want to understand what's going on around them. how do i discover > > people talking about the place i currently am? how do i know this > > restaurant is good? this involves user discovery, place discovery, > > content > > analysis, etc. > > - want to see what people are talking about a particular tv show, news > > article, or any piece of live-real-world content in real time. how can > > twitter be a "second/third/fourth screen" to the world? > > > perhaps the OS X music playback app market is a poor example? sure itunes > > is a dominant app, but last.fm, spotify, etc., all exist and are doing > > things that itunes can't do. > > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:26 PM, funkatron <funkat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Twitter did this to BB clients too, today. > > > > You think this is the last platform they'll do an Official Client on? > > > > Take a look at the OS X music playback app market to see the future of > > > Twitter clients. > > > > Here's the shirt for the Chirp keynote:http://spaz.spreadshirt.com/ > > > > Have fun in SF next week, everybody! > > > > -- > > > Ed Finkler > > >http://funkatron.com > > > @funkatron > > > AIM: funka7ron / ICQ: 3922133 / > > > XMPP:funkat...@gmail.com<xmpp%3afunkat...@gmail.com> > > > > On Apr 9, 10:18 pm, Dewald Pretorius <dpr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > It's great for Loren. > > > > > But, there's a problem, and I hope I'm not the only seeing it. > > > > > Twitter has just kicked all the other developers of Twitter iPhone > > > > (and iPad) clients in the teeth. Big time. Now suddenly their products > > > > compete with a free product that carries the Twitter brand name, and > > > > that has potentially millions of dollars at its disposal for further > > > > development. > > > > > It's really like they're saying, "We picked the winner. Thanks for > > > > everything you've done in the past, but now, screw you." > > > > > This would not have been such a huge deal if the developer ecosystem > > > > did not play such a huge role in propelling Twitter to where it is > > > > today. > > > > > Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > > > > On Apr 9, 10:41 pm, Tim Haines <tmhai...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Before anyone rants, let me say congratulations Loren, and > > > congratulations > > > > > Twitter. Awesome! Totally awesome! > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > Tim. > > > -- > > Raffi Krikorian > > Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/raffi -- To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
