I'm all about it. I have tons of resources I can devote to this in terms of
hardware and the likes. I can donate time for database development as well.
That is my specialty :)

sent from my phone!
On Dec 2, 2014 10:09 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com> wrote:

 Via Adam?

Not likely.

I'm doing some work on making sure the new UBNT MIBs are clean and
standards based. That may not be a required part of the puzzle though --
snmp is pretty slow. Aircontrol works by authenticating initially as admin,
exchanging ssh keys, and then using the device itself to poll stats and
send them upstream (I believe, it's been awhile since I've looked into
this).

I know the proper commands to pull the stats we need for graphing and
everything, and we know the ssh commands for upgrading and things like that.

Diagnosing the config isn't hard, although the order of the config is often
jumbled from device to device and version to version -- but it's mostly the
same.

Just need somebody who can create a basic webpage with auth, load up x
devices per page, a basic search function, and some sorts for organizing
CPEs per AP MAC.

Scheduling would be nice eventually.

This can't be that hard. I used to do stuff far more complicated than this,
but I haven't done any webdesign/css/php since like '99.

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

On 12/02/2014 09:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Think we could get enough stuff into Observium? It already pulls OS\package
versions. So it knows what's running on it. It supports external apps.
Maybe we could get a firmware push system into it.

It has Rancid to pull configurations. Rancid can also push commands out to
all of the devices. Setup a UBNT config file format for the pulling and
setup  a method to push configurations back out?



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*From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com> <j...@spitwspots.com>
*To: *"ubnt users" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 12:45:53 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

looks like we're going to have to come up with a third party solution

this sucks

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

On 12/02/2014 09:41 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

 And that's the problem here... If they want to make a hosted thing with
integrated billing that nobody seems to want, that's fine with me, but it
isn't a replacement for airControl.

Just make something that the basic functions work on (with all devices)
that's somewhat reliable and I think most of us would be perfectly happy...
I don't even care about stuff like maps, it just needs to be able to do
firmware upgrades, make configuration changes and monitor devices. It
doesn't have to be all that complicated.

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*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:21 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

  With airCRM, airControl is dead.



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 *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> <r...@triadwireless.net>
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 12:20:35 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 I think I’d be happy if AirControl just supported all the hardware they
sell and if the AirGateway firmware gets out of Beta before the Cubs win
the World Series.



Rory



*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
<ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:08 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl



true... I don't care if it's there either, but if they for some reason
think the billing stuff needs to be kept on their servers where it's safe
from our meddling, I'd be perfectly happy if they just cut it all out and
let us have the useful part.
  ------------------------------

*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:06 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

As long as they aren't dependent on each other (which I believe they
already said), they don't have to remove billing. Keep it there for all I
care, just let me install it locally.



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*From: *"Mathew Howard" <mat...@litewire.net> <mat...@litewire.net>
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 12:03:37 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

It doesn't seem like it should be all that complicated to just remove the
billing parts and let us have the rest to run on our own servers...
  ------------------------------

*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:43 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

*nods* I'll gladly take airCRM and load it on my existing on-net server and
just not use the billing aspect.



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*From: *"Kees H" <wi...@calbroadband.com> <wi...@calbroadband.com>
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 11:41:26 AM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl



Don't get me wrong.  I would love it if the product works as advertised.
But as with the unifi software.  Allow me to load it on my server.  That is
all I ask for.



 ----- Original Message -----

*From:* Daniel Peoples <dpe...@gmail.com>

*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:13 AM

*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl



Sorry, my brain works in mysterious ways(at least that's what my wife tells
me).

What I'm trying to say is let them take a stab at this, and objectively
judge the final product. They might accidentally get it right. At worst,
when it comes out of beta and doesn't work, don't use it and if enough
folks do the same, they won't mess with it, it will be depreciated and the
team that makes it will be re-assigned.
Also, from the security standpoint I'm just saying that it won't be any
more insecure than any other solution, just because it is a "cloud" based
offering.

Someone also made a comment that I interrupted as "cambium could do it
better", to which I was just saying YES THEY CAN, because they have the
additional financial assistance of a upscale ap/cpe combination to support
it.


  *Daniel Peoples*
Resonance Broadband

*Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com>
918-429-3620



On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

You've completely lost me.



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*From: *"Daniel Peoples" <dpe...@gmail.com>
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:57:46 AM


*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

The revenue of the epmp line doesn't support much.

And actually, how much DOES cambium make off those things?


  *Daniel Peoples*
Resonance Broadband

*Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com>
918-429-3620



On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

ePMP doesn't support what?



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*From: *"Daniel Peoples" <dpe...@gmail.com>
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:52:00 AM


*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

Yes, but we both know that the epmp doesn't support this, the 450 does.


  *Daniel Peoples*
Resonance Broadband

*Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com>
918-429-3620



On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

Cambium has CPE at $120 and APs at $500. Completely plausible to move over.



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*From: *"Daniel Peoples" <dpe...@gmail.com>
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:42:38 AM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

Depending on the direction that the tool takes, it could be gold or a great
big poo stain.

If it is a free to use tool like ac1 or ac2, it will have that initial
spert of awesome that will taper to nothing in a year or two. It will
eventually be stuck by the wayside, as there just isn't enough margin in a
$100 radio to support a tool like this.
Can Cambium or anyone else like them do this better? Sure, but they have
ap's that cost 10 times as much, and SM's that cost 4 to 5 times as much so
they can support these tools.

If it is a paid(MRC) billing platform, it will more than


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