That is fantastic. You even retained the little plastic cap on the end of the antenna.
-------------------------------- Tommy A. Digitex.com 817.558.6230 V 817.558.1204 F > On May 31, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Tommy Adams <[email protected]> wrote: > > Did you set your target signal strength? They should automatically back off > the power. > > > -------------------------------- > Tommy A. > Digitex.com > > 817.558.6230 V > 817.558.1204 F > >> On May 31, 2018, at 5:35 PM, Paul Tackett via Ubnt_users >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Impressive. We found that if there was LOS at that distance, we had to cut >> the yagi down to a nub as the signal was too hot and performance was >> terrible! >> >> Paul Tackett, COO >> (406)284-3174x105 >> [email protected] >> <image002.png> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Tommy Adams >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 15:10 >> To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group' <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >> >> First picture is from the tower. You can see we are not that high. The >> customer pictures are .3 of a mile from the tower and downhill. As you can >> see in both pictures there is zero line of sight. You can also see that >> these are the worse modem placements being 900 MHz and shooting over a metal >> roof. They work beautifully. >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> Tommy Adams >> Network Administrator >> Digitex.com >> >> 817.558.6230 Voice >> 817.558.1204 Fax >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >> Of RickG >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 3:19 PM >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >> >> Thanks again Tommy! I'd love to see a picture of how thick the trees are! >> >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Tommy Adams <[email protected]> wrote: >> Now ours is not loaded up too heavily, only 12 clients. We sell every speed >> we offer which is up to 16 meg for home users. Most of the clients on this >> tower ore on our 5 or 8 meg package. Looking at the graphs, this sector is >> hitting 25 meg frequently, but there is about 60-70 meg of channel >> available, we are running in 20 MHz. Prior to this, we could only sell >> people our $30-$50 packages and they complained about the speed. I see our >> one last UBNT 900 top out at 6-8 meg every night with about the same number >> of people on it. We are buying a couple of SM’s a month and when we get >> enough for all the customers will do a quick change out of the tower and >> customers to the PMP gear. >> >> Overall experience with the PMP 900 is really good. We tried it in 10 MHz >> and it worked great then thought why not try 20 MHz and it still did great. >> We have a lot of frequency hopping electric meters and gas wells in our >> area. I think placement is a big thing too. I would not put this gear on a >> water tower next to the major highway. Not saying it would not work, but >> the if you can see the horizon, then the frequency can hear the horizon. We >> use this gear is a bowl of hills and trees. In fact we did not even mount >> it way above the trees. It is only 20 feet above the trees with down tilt. >> Our furthest customer through what we consider thick trees in north Texas is >> about ½ mile. We do have some customers a little over a mile away as well >> that could not get a clean LOS to the same tower. The gear is a real >> learning experience and not terribly friendly to work with. That being >> said, if a customer calls in and is experience issues, we do not even ask >> them to reboot the PMP SM. We start with their router and 95% of the time >> this resolves their issue. >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> Tommy Adams >> Network Administrator >> Digitex.com >> >> 817.558.6230 Voice >> 817.558.1204 Fax >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >> Of RickG >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 2:51 PM >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >> >> Thanks Tommy! What speeds are people seeing out there on the Cambium 900s? I >> dont trust marketing hype so real word input is very valuable in asking >> these types of decisions. >> >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Tommy Adams <[email protected]> wrote: >> All I know is we install PMP450i 900 and we never visit the customer again. >> Also, when you think about it, the equipment may cost 5k, but I would >> rather have 5 customers bringing in $250/month ($50 package) than the 5k. >> Also, it is not uncommon for companies to charge a higher installation fee >> or slightly higher rates when using NLOS equipment. The additional cost >> must be absorbed by the company or passed on to the consumer. There are a >> number of wonderful lease to own deals out there that do not break the bank. >> We have used Ascentium Capital in the past for emergency upgrades to all >> our wireless backhauls. I know most everyone on here is a big UBNT fan, it >> is after all a UBNT forum, but some of their products are not very good. >> This is one of them. Talking to them at Wispapolooza last year, there does >> not sound like any upgrades are coming for the 900 or 3.65. We have >> deployed Cambium PMP gear in both frequencies and are glad to spend the >> money. It is a real jump in quality. Now would I deploy PMP450 in a low >> end trailer park, not likely. We use UBNT, PMP, ePMP and even some Mikrotik >> in our network. >> >> Good luck… >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> Tommy Adams >> Network Administrator >> Digitex.com >> >> 817.558.6230 Voice >> 817.558.1204 Fax >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >> Of RickG >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 1:42 PM >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >> >> JP, I apologize if you took my comment as a personal offense, it was not >> directed at you but rather I was sharing my experience in a moment of >> "weakness" :P >> Either way, no need to reply because we've definitely beaten this horse to >> death. That said, thanks again! >> >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:33 PM, J Portman <[email protected]> wrote: >> Easy enough to verify, the stock sale was registered with the SEC. >> 5 minutes of research on Google will give you a pretty good idea of who I >> am, what I own, etc. >> And, I think this is the last time I will ever respond to you, since I don't >> fancy being called a prevaricator. >> Please, please, please, ignore all my advice. >> >> JP >> On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:26:18 -0400, RickG wrote >> > JP, With all due respect, I know and have known many "millionaires" - >> > until you see their balance sheet and realize they owe more than they own. >> > With that said, if you've done better than they, then congratulations are >> > in order. I do appreciate your input, so thanks for that! >> > >> > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:11 PM, J Portman <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > I became a multimillionaire through the judicious use of debt. >> > >> > Went from 0 to $2.1 million a year in 4.5 years, from 0 to 11000 dialup >> > customers. >> > Could not have done it with cash. :) >> > >> > I have Jim Hollis (fispa) to thank for opening my eyes to cash flow based >> > financing. >> > >> > Nothing major gets built without leverage. >> > >> > YMMV, >> > JP >> > >> > On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:04:59 -0400, RickG wrote >> > >> > > Ah, that's the difference between us - I run a debt free company. >> > > >> > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J Portman <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> > > Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too low. :) >> > > SB able to charge more. Good price is $69.95. >> > > >> > > $10000*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY expensive >> > > lease). >> > > >> > > 10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump. Acceptable, >> > > but not 'juicy'. :) >> > > >> > > 20 customers at $70 = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per month >> > > (per sector). Now we're talking. >> > > >> > > We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if we >> > > can beat the interference from CPS Energy. >> > > >> > > Get better lease terms and profit goes up. >> > > >> > > Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as well. >> > > $199 seems reasonable if no other service is available. >> > > Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to drive >> > > ARPU up). >> > > >> > > Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for radios and $6000 for >> > > sector with backup. (you only need ONE backup BTW) >> > > Second sector is only $7K for 20 customers. >> > > >> > > And the beat goes on. >> > > >> > > $350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow. I'd make >> > > that deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday. >> > > >> > > But that's just me. :) >> > > >> > > YMMV. >> > > >> > > JP >> > > >> > > >> > > On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote > CAMBIUM: >> > > > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor >> > > > $600 = TOTAL: $10000 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 >> > > > customers @ $50/month = $500/month >> > > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months >> > > > >> > > > UBNT: >> > > > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + >> > > > Labor $600 = TOTAL: $3600 >> > > > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month >> > > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months >> > > > >> > > > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS >> > > > subs is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not >> > > > LOS! :) >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then come >> > > > talk about cost. :) >> > > > >> > > > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 >> > > > clients. >> > > > >> > > > JP >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >> > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman >> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >> > > > > >> > > > > Josh Luthman >> > > > > Office: 937-552-2340 >> > > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 >> > > > > 1100 Wayne St >> > > > > Suite 1337 >> > > > > Troy, OH 45373 >> > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart >> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > >> >> > > > > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in >> > > > > foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit >> > > > > of hill which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I >> > > > > would be hard press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any >> > > > > frequency, it is Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >> > > > > >> > > > > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as >> > > > > opinions will always matter between those WISPs in various >> > > > > conditions. >> > > > > >> > > > > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have >> > > > > customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. >> > > > > That is enough time to recover investment and make something. >> > > > > >> > > > > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, >> > > > > not even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector >> > > > > shielding which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial >> > > > > leases. >> > > > > >> > > > > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market >> > > > > where possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many >> > > > > spots. Hell, we still have a few Alvarians collecting money! >> > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart >> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > >> >> > > > > You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it work >> > > > > in foliage areas. >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions >> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life >> > > > > experience input. >> > > > > >> > > > > Do they cut through heavy pine trees? >> > > > > What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? >> > > > > Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? >> > > > > I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one >> > > > > mile away from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees >> > > > > about 80 to 100 feet tall. Any suggestions? >> > > > > >> > > > > Thank you in advance for your reply. >> > > > > >> > > > > Ralf >> > > > > Gulf Wireless Inc. >> > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > > > [email protected] >> > > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > > > [email protected] >> > > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > > >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > > > [email protected] >> > > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > >> > > > > -RickG >> > > > >> > > > Joe Portman >> > > > Alamo Broadband Inc. >> > > > www.alamobroadband.com >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > >> > > > -RickG >> > > >> > > Joe Portman >> > > Alamo Broadband Inc. >> > > www.alamobroadband.com >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > > [email protected] >> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > -RickG >> > >> > Joe Portman >> > Alamo Broadband Inc. >> > www.alamobroadband.com >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > -- >> > >> > -RickG >> >> >> Joe Portman >> Alamo Broadband Inc. >> www.alamobroadband.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG >> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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