I've been sent the details off-list by a kind soul detailing the Urgent
Service Restoration process which it seems passed Zen by, so we'll pursue
that in the first instance.

Still annoyed, though. Seems like sanctioning/expelling providers that were
actually abusing the old migration process to hold users captive unfairly
would be more constructive than this.

On 12 January 2017 at 15:17, Phillip Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Being as brief as I can:
>
> * BT Local Business reseller (Converged Communications in Leeds) draws up
> agreement for telephony renewal at end of the previous term at request of
> mutual customer who (paraphrasing what the BTLB reseller told me when I
> rang them) has apparently told them "you need to do better on our line
> rental and call costs, but are happy with our existing Internet unless you
> can substantially improve the speed or wifi signal" (customer was already
> on 80/20 FTTC, 69mbps sync, and based on their relatively negligible usage
> do not even need "faster Internet" but that is by the by)
>
> * BTLB builds a quote/order for their relatively complex setup - ISDN30
> channels, PSTN lines, and existing BT broadband one of their subtenants
> uses, and adds an extra BT Infinity service to a PSTN line apparently
> picked at random so that they are selling something new to "justify
> reducing the price of other elements", adding this order as a "new
> acquisition". Unfortunately they chose the line we supply (via Zen) FTTC
> on.
>
> * They apparently present the quotation without comment setting out what
> they have done and that they are adding a new service ("1x BT Infinity
> Broadband" becomes "2x BT Infinity Broadband", customer doesn't pick up on
> that), or that it will cause any migrations if there is an existing service
> on the line (because BTLB didn't check if there was an existing service on
> the line). The salesdroid seems satisfied that he was okay to add the
> infinity service as he was "increasing the speed of the broadband as
> requested" ("Okay...but it was already on 80/20" "right, but it's fibre
> now" "...no")
>
> * No migration notice to the losing provider appears to have been
> sent/received by us/Zen so far as anyone can tell (Zen are looking into
> this)
>
> * Customer rings us today to tell us their Internet is not working because
> BT have of course migrated them as nobody responded to the notification
> (which we do not appear to have been sent) to put a stop to the migration
>
> * Reseller's position is that the customer is in their cooling off period
> so they can "just place a migration order back and we'll cancel the
> agreement" but this leaves the end user with 10wd without our (or any)
> static IP which is specified and used in various places and is a
> non-trivial thing to be changing (particularly to change back in 10wd)
>
> I am of the position that the "new service" was missold by the BTLB, but
> arguing about that doesn't help the customer get back online.
>
> Does anyone know if there anything that can be done about this to revert
> this quicker than placing a migration (given migrations cannot be expedited
> in any way, because, of course notice is supposed to be given!)?
>
> (Also, are BTLB resellers really supposed to be marketing themselves as
> "being BT", answering the phone as "BT Local Business" etc? Our customer
> was quite convinced they were dealing direct with BT, but, of course, they
> are not.)
>
> Phil
>
>

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