Diana;513744 Wrote: > I also understood that EAC had a particularly effective statistical > algorithm for extracting audio from extremely scratched CDs.
EAC Guide Wrote: > > Secure mode is a mode in EAC where every sector on the disc is reread > at least twice. If an error is detected, EAC will reread that same > sector up to a maximum of 16 times. If two identical results are not > achieved, EAC will display an error. At the end of the ripping process > EAC will show you where that error occurred and allow you to listen to > that part of the track so you can determine whether or not the error is > audible. Secure mode is slower than traditional ripping modes because of > the error correction it offers. > That's not all that different from cdparanoia. (Which draws little smiley and frownies when it has problems reading, and then it goes back to reread problematic blocks.) I don't know what the retry count is for CDParanoia, but it seems to be much greater than 16, though at that point you may as well give up: EAC is probably wise to stop after 16, because at that point it's not likely you can get to the real data at all.) I've watched it try VERY hard to get data off some damaged CD's. (My favorite was a box set of 3 Elis Regina discs that took 3 months to get special ordered... and one of them arrived clearly warped. CD Paranoia tried for hours to rip that one... I killed it, since it was getting nowhere. I ended up flattening it somewhat under a stack of books for a few days, which made it rippable.) > > Q: Why don't you implement CDDB? A GUI? Four million other features I > want? > A: ...The goal of cdparanoia is perfect, rock-solid audio from every > capable cdrom on every platform. As this goal has not yet been met, I'm > uninterested in adding unrelated capability to the core engine." > That's Monty being, well, Monty. cdparanoia is a brilliant piece of work, but it's not "perfect" because, well, no software ever is. Until he reaches that nirvana of perfect ripping (again, an impossibilty), he won't add a gui or CDDB, or compression codecs or tagging... it really isn't "the unix way" of "a program that does one job and does it well". I don't think he's saying cdparanoia is incapable of perfect rips. > > > As I said, I haven't used EAC under WINE for ages, for the reasons that > occasioned this thread. I'd be very happy to give cdparanoia a go, but > I'd prefer to use a decent GUI. IIRC, you use the CLI; can you - or > anyone else - recommend a good gui? cdparanoia itself is a command line with a pain in the butt syntax to type. Only some very masochistic people would use it that way. It is invoked in a variety of command line scripts (like abcde, which calls cdparanoia, your-encoder-of-choice, some taggers, some cddb lookup programs... using one program to invoke a whole slew of other programs that do the real dirty work: the encoder writers don't have to care about ripping, the tagging writers don't have to care about how to encode, etc). It is also a library (libparanoia) that many other programs use to do the actual ripping. (Ie, they use function calls to specify parameters to the paranoia engine instead of command line switches.. then they put a pretty wrapper around it all.. but it's still cdparanoia doing the ripping.) Amongst the guis: grip is one I used for a while (but I found typing 'abcde' was easier than clicking things). KDE has a few as well (soundKonverter, audex come to mind). There is a lot of choice, but they all come down to the same basic thing (which, again, is "the unix way"): Audex page at kde-apps.org Wrote: > > Audex creates profiles for LAME, OGG Vorbis (oggenc), FLAC, > MP4/M4A/AAC (faac) and RIFF WAVE. Please install your favorite encoder. > > > > > > > > They're all effectively wrappers for paranoia, lame, flac, oggenc, or > > whatever. (Though as I recall, EAC does something similar: I recall > > "command windows" popping up as it calls lame to encode.. at least on > > Linux that UI isn't needed to invoke commands.) > > > > So rip quality is pretty much the same for anything on Linux (since > > virtually everything is cdparanoia at the core), the UI is the real > > difference, since cdparanoia itself doesn't really have one of its own. -- snarlydwarf ------------------------------------------------------------------------ snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57534 _______________________________________________ unix mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
