Should we try to write a "framework-only" feature proposal page like
the one Scott has writted for "Saved Searches"
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Saved+Searches
collecting all requirements from the mails?

Having the path written could help volunteers to contribute in the
right direction.

-Bruno

2009/12/4 Christopher Snow <[email protected]>:
> That makes a lot of sense - thanks again Scott!
>
> Scott Gray wrote:
>> That risk is run by anybody who gets the ball rolling on any new
>> proposal, be it a contributor, committer or PMC member.  Nobody is
>> capable of pushing through substantial change without the approval of
>> the community at large.
>>
>> The key for any amount of work is to collaborate with the community as
>> much as possible, if something is large then just break it down and
>> discuss each change piece by piece.  An approach such as this
>> substantially reduces the risk that any work done will be wasted and
>> generally improves the overall design.
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>> On 4/12/2009, at 7:27 PM, chris snow wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Adrian,
>>>
>>> For a change that may be substantial, could this approach be quite risky
>>> that a lot of time could be spent developing something that may not be
>>> accepted?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That is not how the open source community works. If anyone wants to see
>>>> this move along, they need to make the desired changes to their local
>>>> copy, create a patch, and submit it to Jira.
>>>>
>>>> As far as coordination is concerned, there is an "umbrella" Jira issue
>>>> for this already. Just make new Jira issues sub-tasks of it.
>>>>
>>>> -Adrian
>>>>
>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) wrote:
>>>>> hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Like Bruno mentioned, this topic has been discussed over many
>>>>> times. And
>>>>> it
>>>>> is time to take some actions. I really think one or more leaders
>>>>> should
>>>>> lead
>>>>> the process. Otherwise, the discussion might be around for a long long
>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, chris snow <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Bruno,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to help.  Are you coordinating efforts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruno Busco wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>>> the framework isolation and a framework-only installation is
>>>>>>> definitely something the community as talken about many times. You
>>>>>>> will find several conversations searching the mailing list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We will have it sooner or later and any help you could provide on
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> topic will be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/11/24 Michael Xu (xudong) <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> hmm...I compared the article and the latest code from trunk. I
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>> the diagram is consistent with codes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For example, from the diagram party doesn't depend on marketing;
>>>>>> however,
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> I mentioned in previous email, party entity definition does use
>>>>>>>> ContactListParty from marketing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86)
>>>>>>>> 135
>>>>>>>> 0135
>>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just found an article about the dependency:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>>> the component relationship diagram, it seems I have to include all
>>>>>>>>> components under framework and application in my new
>>>>>>>>> application. Is
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>>>>>>>>> (86)
>>>>>> 135
>>>>>>>>> 0135 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I try to build a new application using ofbiz. Basically, I
>>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> nice overall architect of ofbiz, theme mechanism and
>>>>>>>>>> Party/Permission/SecurityGroup. However, I found it is very
>>>>>>>>>> difficult
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> remove unnecessary components.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For example, entitymodel.xml from applications/party
>>>>>>>>>> uses ContactListParty, which is from marketing component. I think
>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>> dependency doesn't make much sense, as marketing is only an
>>>>>>>>>> optional
>>>>>>>>>> component but party is a must.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's the best practice for my case? Advices and clues will
>>>>>>>>>> be very
>>>>>>>>>> appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Michael Xu
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>> http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform-tp786778p933001.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>
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