This brings up what I call the classic "where do I start with J2EE' problem.

I've hired more than one person who can, by the book, pass a test about
servlets, and maybe even write one.

But show them a framework, and they're immediately lost.

It's necessary to know some fundamentals - but in some cases, it's best to
know just enough to understand where a framework is taking you - you don't
have to know how to write Spring to use it (for instance).


On 10/1/07, John Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Meisam,
>
> I would recommend that you start with the JSP and servlet tutorials
> rather than jumping right into the deep end.  I admire that you have
> taken such a plunge; there is so much to learn here that you head
> will soon be spinning (if it's not already).  Appfuse uses a number
> of frameworks that are non-trivial for the beginning Java developer.
>
> I'd recommend that you skip the JEE stuff altogether, honestly.
> Appfuse stays away from the overhead of requiring a full JEE app
> server and I think you'll find that most developers who have been
> exposed to open source Java frameworks would agree that's the best
> strategy for a beginner.  If you find you do need to go the JEE
> route, none of the experience you gain by using Appfuse will have
> gone to waste; JEE is moving in the direction of the lighter, better,
> faster frameworks.
>
> You'd do well to pick up a few books, namely Spring in Action, Java
> Persistence with Hibernate, anything written by Rod Johnson, and
> "Better Builds With Maven 2." The Maven book is a free download.  You
> will find that your journey is initially like learning a foreign
> language by moving to a foreign country.  Don't give up and one day
> you'll realize that you just "get it" and you aren't re-reading every
> page again and again.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Coleman
>
>
> On Oct 1, 2007, at 12:43 PM, meisam4910 wrote:
>
> >
> > thank you and im fan of this website, its very good, have a look dude;
> > www.roseindia.net
> >
> >
> > Mike Horwitz wrote:
> >>
> >> I am a fan of the Sun tutorials. They are pretty comprehensive and
> >> should
> >> get you going reasonably quickly:
> >> http://java.sun.com/javaee/reference/tutorials/ (pick the Java EE
> >> version
> >> appropriate for you).
> >>
> >> Mike.
> >>
> >> On 10/1/07, meisam4910 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> guys, can anybody suggest a powerful and comprehensive tutorial
> >>> on J2EE
> >>> kick
> >>> start ? for example now when i want to start a project i see many
> >>> things
> >>> are
> >>> inside the project such as, beans, xml files, sources,... i want
> >>> to know
> >>> the
> >>> relationships between these elements, and how they communicate
> >>> with each
> >>> other ? i have read a lot about the J2EE, but still need to
> >>> understand
> >>> the
> >>> structure of an web application directory, a common structure and
> >>> essential
> >>> things inside the directory. thank you.
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