appreciate your reply, and thank you for your advice, im about to start a JSP tutorial, and will have a look at J2EE guides as well, i need to take some time, prepare myself. :)
melinate wrote: > > You should never feel bad about asking questions!!! Questions are > encouraged here and even uncertain answers are encouraged. One of the > great things about AppFuse is the willingness of the community to help > each other out. If you have any trouble understanding something please > ask. Anyone who reads this list and who has already figured out that > problem will try to help. > > I suggest you just take your time [if you can]. Follow the tutorials > closely and try to understand why things work as you go along. If you go > through the tutorial a few times and read the books/documentation that > have been recommended in this thread you should start to get it even if it > takes a little while. > > Nathan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "meisam4910" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007 1:17:36 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles > Subject: Re: [appfuse-user] J2EE fundumentals > > > Dear coleman > > I do take your advice serious but the thing is that i need to learn JEE as > well, im not that far away from java and web applications, i have done a > small jdbc applications for myself, and at least im familiar with some > terms, but still have lot of problems with JSTL and tag libs which i found > them very difficult to learn and scary to go for :( .anyways the reason i > came after java web based frameworks was that i was learning little by > little about web applications and jdbc connections, one day i was working > at > home, suddenly i saw an article (why re-inventing the wheel ?) it sounded > very nice to me, it was about frameworks and the ready applications, i > found > myself stupid to build the entire web application from the scratch, i > started to learn about the frameworks although it was so early to learn > them, and i suppose it is still too early. fortunately people really > helped > me a lot here and in other frameworks forums, during last week i learned a > lot of stuff, the problem is that i need to continue building my web > application(Document management system), and i can`t ignore the sweetness > and functionalities of the frameworks and JEE, thats why im disturbing > people here a lot with a lot of questions and beginners questions(let me > thank matt to be patient enough), and i want to build the application > based > on struts with eclipse IDE and help of appfuse. I will have a lot of > questions and i know this forum is not suitable for me as a beginner and > i > apologize again for asking lot of beginners questions step b step during > my > learning,i really dun like the situation, i would like to go for JSP, > servlets, then J2EE ,...first but i kind of like the appfuse and its > functionlities and also struts, i really want to learn it and i know > achieving this sounds very difficult by now. > > > John Coleman-5 wrote: >> >> Meisam, >> >> I would recommend that you start with the JSP and servlet tutorials >> rather than jumping right into the deep end. I admire that you have >> taken such a plunge; there is so much to learn here that you head >> will soon be spinning (if it's not already). Appfuse uses a number >> of frameworks that are non-trivial for the beginning Java developer. >> >> I'd recommend that you skip the JEE stuff altogether, honestly. >> Appfuse stays away from the overhead of requiring a full JEE app >> server and I think you'll find that most developers who have been >> exposed to open source Java frameworks would agree that's the best >> strategy for a beginner. If you find you do need to go the JEE >> route, none of the experience you gain by using Appfuse will have >> gone to waste; JEE is moving in the direction of the lighter, better, >> faster frameworks. >> >> You'd do well to pick up a few books, namely Spring in Action, Java >> Persistence with Hibernate, anything written by Rod Johnson, and >> "Better Builds With Maven 2." The Maven book is a free download. You >> will find that your journey is initially like learning a foreign >> language by moving to a foreign country. Don't give up and one day >> you'll realize that you just "get it" and you aren't re-reading every >> page again and again. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Coleman >> >> >> On Oct 1, 2007, at 12:43 PM, meisam4910 wrote: >> >>> >>> thank you and im fan of this website, its very good, have a look dude; >>> www.roseindia.net >>> >>> >>> Mike Horwitz wrote: >>>> >>>> I am a fan of the Sun tutorials. They are pretty comprehensive and >>>> should >>>> get you going reasonably quickly: >>>> http://java.sun.com/javaee/reference/tutorials/ (pick the Java EE >>>> version >>>> appropriate for you). >>>> >>>> Mike. >>>> >>>> On 10/1/07, meisam4910 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> guys, can anybody suggest a powerful and comprehensive tutorial >>>>> on J2EE >>>>> kick >>>>> start ? for example now when i want to start a project i see many >>>>> things >>>>> are >>>>> inside the project such as, beans, xml files, sources,... i want >>>>> to know >>>>> the >>>>> relationships between these elements, and how they communicate >>>>> with each >>>>> other ? i have read a lot about the J2EE, but still need to >>>>> understand >>>>> the >>>>> structure of an web application directory, a common structure and >>>>> essential >>>>> things inside the directory. thank you. >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: >>>>> http://www.nabble.com/J2EE-fundumentals- >>>>> tf4549368s2369.html#a12982474 >>>>> Sent from the AppFuse - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> - >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/J2EE- >>> fundumentals-tf4549368s2369.html#a12982823 >>> Sent from the AppFuse - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/J2EE-fundumentals-tf4549368s2369.html#a12986783 > Sent from the AppFuse - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/J2EE-fundumentals-tf4549368s2369.html#a12989450 Sent from the AppFuse - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
