Dear coleman I do take your advice serious but the thing is that i need to learn JEE as well, im not that far away from java and web applications, i have done a small jdbc applications for myself, and at least im familiar with some terms, but still have lot of problems with JSTL and tag libs which i found them very difficult to learn and scary to go for :( .anyways the reason i came after java web based frameworks was that i was learning little by little about web applications and jdbc connections, one day i was working at home, suddenly i saw an article (why re-inventing the wheel ?) it sounded very nice to me, it was about frameworks and the ready applications, i found myself stupid to build the entire web application from the scratch, i started to learn about the frameworks although it was so early to learn them, and i suppose it is still too early. fortunately people really helped me a lot here and in other frameworks forums, during last week i learned a lot of stuff, the problem is that i need to continue building my web application(Document management system), and i can`t ignore the sweetness and functionalities of the frameworks and JEE, thats why im disturbing people here a lot with a lot of questions and beginners questions(let me thank matt to be patient enough), and i want to build the application based on struts with eclipse IDE and help of appfuse. I will have a lot of questions and i know this forum is not suitable for me as a beginner and i apologize again for asking lot of beginners questions step b step during my learning,i really dun like the situation, i would like to go for JSP, servlets, then J2EE ,...first but i kind of like the appfuse and its functionlities and also struts, i really want to learn it and i know achieving this sounds very difficult by now.
John Coleman-5 wrote: > > Meisam, > > I would recommend that you start with the JSP and servlet tutorials > rather than jumping right into the deep end. I admire that you have > taken such a plunge; there is so much to learn here that you head > will soon be spinning (if it's not already). Appfuse uses a number > of frameworks that are non-trivial for the beginning Java developer. > > I'd recommend that you skip the JEE stuff altogether, honestly. > Appfuse stays away from the overhead of requiring a full JEE app > server and I think you'll find that most developers who have been > exposed to open source Java frameworks would agree that's the best > strategy for a beginner. If you find you do need to go the JEE > route, none of the experience you gain by using Appfuse will have > gone to waste; JEE is moving in the direction of the lighter, better, > faster frameworks. > > You'd do well to pick up a few books, namely Spring in Action, Java > Persistence with Hibernate, anything written by Rod Johnson, and > "Better Builds With Maven 2." The Maven book is a free download. You > will find that your journey is initially like learning a foreign > language by moving to a foreign country. Don't give up and one day > you'll realize that you just "get it" and you aren't re-reading every > page again and again. > > Good luck, > > Coleman > > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 12:43 PM, meisam4910 wrote: > >> >> thank you and im fan of this website, its very good, have a look dude; >> www.roseindia.net >> >> >> Mike Horwitz wrote: >>> >>> I am a fan of the Sun tutorials. They are pretty comprehensive and >>> should >>> get you going reasonably quickly: >>> http://java.sun.com/javaee/reference/tutorials/ (pick the Java EE >>> version >>> appropriate for you). >>> >>> Mike. >>> >>> On 10/1/07, meisam4910 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> guys, can anybody suggest a powerful and comprehensive tutorial >>>> on J2EE >>>> kick >>>> start ? for example now when i want to start a project i see many >>>> things >>>> are >>>> inside the project such as, beans, xml files, sources,... i want >>>> to know >>>> the >>>> relationships between these elements, and how they communicate >>>> with each >>>> other ? i have read a lot about the J2EE, but still need to >>>> understand >>>> the >>>> structure of an web application directory, a common structure and >>>> essential >>>> things inside the directory. thank you. >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://www.nabble.com/J2EE-fundumentals- >>>> tf4549368s2369.html#a12982474 >>>> Sent from the AppFuse - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/J2EE- >> fundumentals-tf4549368s2369.html#a12982823 >> Sent from the AppFuse - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/J2EE-fundumentals-tf4549368s2369.html#a12986783 Sent from the AppFuse - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
