On Sunday 10 May 2009, H.S. wrote:
>Barbara Duprey wrote:
>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 06 May 2009, McLauchlan, Kevin wrote:
>>>> HOWEVER, less than two years ago, on this list, we had examples of
>>>> people not receiving the message footer parts. In fact I recall
>>>> receiving posts from _some_ posters (who posted only to the list, not to
>>>> individual members) where the incoming message did not contain the
>>>> unsubscribe administrivia at the bottom. I forget what was the source
>>>> of that situation, but it might be relevant to some of the people having
>>>> trouble.
>>>
>>> Such examples are endemic Kevin. So lets take a poll here.
>>>
>>> How many receivers of this list can see a quote by sci-fi author Ed
>>> Howdershelt at the bottom of this message? if you can, your email
>>> agent is good. If its stripped, your email agent is broken. It
>>> really is that simple.
>>>
>>> Many email agents think they are doing the user a favor when they
>>> strip the useless (to them) sigs from the bottom of a message before
>>> they show it to the reader, and since the convention in email
>>> formatting places a 'newline dash dash space' as the sig separator,
>>> this is very easy for them to do. But it is not correct to strip it
>>> until one hits the reply keys, then it actually becomes wasted space
>>> cuz most will add their own. Until that reply key is hit, it should
>>> show you this stuff, which is appended by the server as the last 2
>>> lines or so of the message it forwards to the subscribers. Below my sig.
>>
>> Your sig came through, but I don't think that is the cause of the
>> missing unsubscribe trailer -- it has a long string of dashes, not the
>> standard two, so it would not follow the rules for sig stripping. My
>> best guess is that those who use gmail addresses for posting do not get
>> the trailer on their posts, while others do (sometimes grayed out below
>> a user sig, as for yur post, and therefore not repeated in replies). I
>> haven't really investigated that, though. Anybody else figured out
>> what's happening here?
>
>I get Gene's signatures. But I do not get any signature with your
>message. I am using Thunderbird and use Gmane to read/write mailing
>lists. I am using a gmail address for all the mailing lists.
>
>Finally, if I view my own messages, I do seen my own signature as well.
>
>Do these observations shed any more light on this problem?
If Barbara is using a signature, I'm not seeing it either, but I do see the
std trailer below her msg. I'm using kmail as the display and composer here,
but I pop all 3 accounts I have with fetchmail, whicch hands it off to
procmail for filtering before kmail ever sees it, and I post to all 3 with
SNMP if that is any help.
Unforch, my corpus of OO stuff here is limited due to expiry rules, I have to
to keep kmail under 5Gb, more than that and it gets noticeably slower.
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
A national debt, if it is not excessive, will be to us a national blessing.
-- Alexander Hamilton
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