Good points, Mike.

 1. Although the domains are now under ASF custody, the openoffice.org web site 
content is not all on ASF servers yet.  When it is, the Apache OpenOffice 
podling can clean them up, reflect all the changes, etc.  But, in general, AOO 
does not have the keys to the original sites.  There is a draft/staging site 
where materials has been moved and will be the actual site when cut-over 
happens.  After cut-over, cleanup will happen much more quickly and it will 
show up on the public face of the site near-immediately.  All of the clean-up 
won't be done by cut-over, so expect it to be an on-going effort.  A good way 
to notify the project of pages needing attention is with the Bugzilla or the 
Community Wiki. Cut-over is close and now would be a good time to add some 
child pages on cleanups to this one: 
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Site-PPMC-Plan>.

 2. There are privacy considerations as well as technical differences that 
prevent the list subscriptions being transferred to the Apache OpenOffice 
lists.  The lists are not being transferred (the lists and their current 
archives will completely disappear except where 3rd parties have established 
archives).

 3. Nice catch on the subscription-required observation.  I suppose wording it 
that way saves the moderators a lot of work -- initial posts from 
non-subscribers on the new lists are always moderated.  Of course it is more 
accurate to say that, to *receive* the list, one must be subscribed.  It's also 
recommended if you have a question and expect to see any answers.  It may not 
be noticed that a Q is from a non-subscriber and responses likely go back to 
the list only.  Some folks also ignore requests for direct replies and 
especially for private responses.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Scott [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 09:04
To: [email protected]
Subject: [users] Re: Hi

On 14/12/11 16:49, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> The subscription address for the Apache OpenOffice users list is
>
> <[email protected]>.
>
> Send a message from the e-mail address you want to be subscribed.
> Respond to the confirmation that is returned by the list robot.
>
> If for some reason your request bounces (it happens), report that
> and your request to<[email protected]>.

Couldn't the old list addresses be forwarded to the AOO list addresses 
in the interim? Then at least people subscribing to the old list would 
actually be on the new.

It's not over-helpful that the OOo website /still/ has the old list 
subscribe address (plus, I see the incorrect advice that "You must be 
subscribed to post messages").


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Mike Scott
Harlow, Essex, England
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