Last question first: 1. I am a moderator of both ooo-private (a restricted-subscription list) and ooo-user (a public list) and I assure you that it is possible to post to either without subscribing. And ooo-security receives non-subscriber posts as part of being able to receive warnings about vulnerabilities and exploits. I don't know where the subscription-required-to-post meme comes from. It is simply not true.
Non-subscriber posts will be moderated. The moderator has the option of allowing future posts from the same user to reach the list without future moderation as well. This is independent of subscribing, which must be done to receive the list. There are a few lists where the archive and subscription is restricted. ooo-security and ooo-private are the only two at Apache OpenOffice.org. 2. I read these lists directly so I have no experience with the alternative archives and access subscriptions. That is a good idea. It would be good to collect the locations of those and put them up on the OOOUSERS wiki. When the OpenOffice.org site cut-over happens, updated information can be placed there also. I'll see what I can find out. 3. I thought your proposal was interesting and that, in 2010, it was talking about users@ OO.o by the term ooo-users, which of course is not ooo-users@ apache.org, a list that has since come into existence. The one problem that I am aware of is the inability for folks to know whether a post is from a non-subscriber or not. There are also folks who are subscribers who get pissed off if they are CC:-ed on list posts, yet that is the best way to indicate that there is something related to them in a list post. (See the big banner that someone has been using at the top of their posts lately.) Any more recent thoughts. I am not aware that LibreOffice has done anything about that proposal. At least I can't tell on the lists I am subscribed to. - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: M. Fioretti [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 21:50 To: [email protected] Subject: [users] Re: List Migration Prospects (was RE: Re: Hi) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 13:20:50 PM -0800, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > The lists are not being transferred (the lists and their current > archives will completely disappear except where 3rd parties have > established archives). is there, by chance, a single list of these 3rd parties? > 3. Nice catch on the subscription-required observation. my understanding (if I remember correctly, I'm not sure) is that "subscription required to post, period" is THE policy for all Apache-hosted mailing lists. > It may not be noticed that a Q is from a non-subscriber and > responses likely go back to the list only. it is terrible that this point is still made after the problems and embarrassments it has caused for almost ten years now. See http://stop.zona-m.net/2010/11/a-proposal-for-effective-volunteer-friendly-user-support-in-libreoffice/ Marco -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] For additional commands send email to [email protected] with Subject: help
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