VACList DigestVACList-Digest Tuesday, September 3, 2002 Issue 414
Today's Topics:
1. Adjustable Pedals and Ultima 2020
2. Re: 1950's taillight wiring
3. Re: Polyethyline sheets
4. Re: Polyethyline sheets
5. Re: Adjustable Pedals and Ultima 2020
6. Re: Polyethylene sheets
7. Re: What is it?
8. Epoxy from the bottom up
9. Enlarging jack post mounts
10. Tail lights
11. Fuse Block - Dashboard Heater
12. Re: Polyethyline sheets
13. Rotten floor supports!
14. vent lifter knobs
15. Re: Rotten floor supports!
16. Re: Polyethyline sheets
17. Re: Fuse Block - Dashboard Heater
18. Re: Epoxy from the bottom up
19. My airstream Pictures..
20. Re: Argosy Models
21. Re: Enlarging jack post mounts
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Message Number: 1
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 17:06:44 -0600
From: "Tuna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adjustable Pedals and Ultima 2020
I can't for the life of me find the email that talks about the solution for
using the Ultima2020 and the new adjustable pedals... who posted that, and
how was the cable attached? is there a new part required?
tuna
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Message Number: 2
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 17:12:21 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1950's taillight wiring
That's them exactly! That's how all the Bargman #9's I've seen are
wired.
The URL got chopped in the posting. You can see them on this page:
http://vintageairstream.com/floyd/restoration/exteriorlights.html
Thanks again.
RJ
On Monday, September 2, 2002, at 04:36 PM, Fred Coldwell wrote:
> RJ:
>
> Some cars and trucks in the 1950's did not have turn
> signals installed at the factory. They were an option and
> the people who did not order them used hand signals when
> turning. When a separate turn signal switch was later
> added to such a vehicle, the turn signal lights had their
> own circuit and a separate lamp socket. If your trailer was
> ordered for such a tow vehicle (or turn signals were added
> to the tow vehicle when the trailer was purchased), then it
> would have had separate circuits for stop, turn and tail
> lights so it could be wired to the car.
> I could not pull up your image of the tail lamp, but does
> it have two light sockets inside the housing, one single
> base socket for the tail lamp bulb and a double base socket
> for the stop light and turn signal? I have a pair of rear
> lights off an old truck from that era that are made that
> way, two lamp sockets inside the housing, one single base
> and one double base. Pretty funky old tech. :)
>
> Fred C.
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Message Number: 3
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 21:47:30 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Polyethyline sheets
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I built the holding tanks for my trailes from likght plywood crovered ithe
inside with a layer of 3/4oz matt and one layer of 6 oz cloth also taped
around the joints with abother layer of 3/4 oz mattcut into 43in strips and a
layer of fiberglass cloth tape I cut the lid to size and glassid the
underside the same as the box I painted all inside aeras with epoxy paint and
cut narrow stripe of matt wetted them out and mushed the lis down on the box
and let cure. I than rounded all the ourtside joints and crovered ahe intiee
box with 6oz cloth. if the tank is being used in the inside of the trailer i
would only tape the seams. If it is long fresh water tank i would put babbles
in it to prevent water fram sloshong sbout when the tank is partly empty I
usted to build water and holding tanks this way for boats and never had a
provlem with them
By all means use EPOXY resin not the polyester resin sold at home depot lowes
walmart and auto p;arts stores it is unsatisfactory.
Jim Smith
165 Tradewind (The Silver Abaltross)
1992 Dodge Cummins Diesel
Ps if you go this route I can put you in toutch with resonable priced
fiberglass products.
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FACE="Arial" LANG="0">I built the holding tanks for my trailes from likght plywood
crovered ithe inside with a layer of 3/4oz matt and one layer of 6 oz cloth also taped
aroBy all means use EPOXY resin not the polyester resin sold at home depot lowes
walmart and auto p;arts stores it is unsatisfactory.<BR>
Jim Smith<BR>
165 Tradewind (The Silver Abaltross)<BR>
1992 Dodge Cummins Diesel<BR>
Ps if you go this route I can put you in toutch with resonable priced fiberglass
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Message Number: 4
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 22:01:06 -0400
From: Bob Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Polyethyline sheets
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Eric,
Here's a place you can buy a welder for
$39. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=41592
If you do build your tanks please let the list know how you make out.
BP
At 06:55 PM 9/2/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Eric, my guess is you would do better with fiberglass construction.
>Welding plastics requires a special hot air gun and some polyethylene has
>to be friction welded.
>
>Jim Greene
>' 68 Tradewind
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Eric and Linda Evans
>To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Multiple recipients of VACList
>Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 18:42
>Subject: [VAC] Polyethyline sheets
>
>Has anyone ever tried to build your own tanks out of sheets of poly? If
>so, where can I get the poly, at least closer to Jacksonville, Florida. Eric
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Eric,<br>
Here's a place you can buy a welder for $39.
<a href="http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=41592";
eudora="autourl">http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=41592</a><br>
If you do build your tanks please let the list know how you make
out.<br>
BP<br><br>
At 06:55 PM 9/2/2002 -0400, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>Eric, my
guess is you would do better with fiberglass construction. Welding
plastics requires a special hot air gun and some polyethylene has to be
friction welded. </font><br>
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<font face="arial" size=2>Jim Greene</font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2>' 68 Tradewind</font><br>
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VACList</a>
<dd>Sent:</b> Monday, September 02, 2002 18:42
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<dd>Has anyone ever tried to build your own tanks out of sheets of
poly? If so, where can I get the poly, at least closer to
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Message Number: 5
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 19:13:59 -0600
From: "Tuna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adjustable Pedals and Ultima 2020
found my answer on the airstreamList... there is a new part coming from
Jordan, but i can make my own in about 20 minutes, if i need to...
tuna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tuna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: [VAC] Adjustable Pedals and Ultima 2020
> I can't for the life of me find the email that talks about the solution
for
> using the Ultima2020 and the new adjustable pedals... who posted that, and
> how was the cable attached? is there a new part required?
>
> tuna
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Message Number: 6
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 21:27:58 -0500
From: "J.Evans Woodward III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Polyethylene sheets
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Has anyone ever tried to build your own tanks out of sheets of poly?
[J.Evans Woodward III]
Eric,
My family owns a custom industrial rubber and plastic company. I grew up
welding poly tanks. It's pretty easy, but if you get it too hot it will be
brittle, not hot enough poor adhesion. If you get going and have any
questions, I'll be glad to help.
Evans
62 Sovereign
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Message Number: 7
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 22:50:21 -0400
From: William Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is it?
This is the sensor for the thermometer that is under the clock on the
Don,front cabinet.
bill
25 ft Trade Wind in WV
Don Hardman wrote:
Underneath attached to the
> belly pan on the front right corner is a 1/2" plastic tube about 12" long
> that goes through the belly pan, inside the trailer. I can't see anything of
> this from inside.
>
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Message Number: 8
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 20:51:50 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Epoxy from the bottom up
Does anyone know if its possible to epoxy repair a floor from the bottom
up? I've got a small 1"X6" spot in my Tradewind that would require me to
take out the whole bathroom - not something I want to do. I would like to
be able to do it from underneath the floor - I figure I could inject it,
but not sure if that works. Thanks
Ken Johansen
5358
59 Traveler
75 Tradewind
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Message Number: 9
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 22:39:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Leggett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Enlarging jack post mounts
RJ-
How did you go about enlarging the diameter of the
jack post hole? Hole saw? Jig Saw? Brute force
filing? (Please tell me there's an easier way than a
handfile!)
John Leggett
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Message Number: 8
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 21:18:50 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Walmart Tongue Jack
Ugh, I've seen it. Lightweight piece o' junk. Looks
to be for real light utility trailers. The
2000#/5000# Atwoods or Bulldogs are still
the best bet. While you don't have to replace the
handle like we did, here is our installation:
http://www.VintageAirstream.com/floyd/restoration/jack.html
Our 5000# rated Atwood only cost $28.
https://www.rvpartsoutlet.com
Best of luck,
RJ
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Message Number: 10
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 06:02:17 -0400
From: "john or cindy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tail lights
Hi RJ
My 58 Caravanner had the same light set up as you explained. I removed all
those sockets & installed new 1157 tail light sockets inside the original
#9s. You can't notice the modification & the light's wiring now match my
puller's. Now I can find the correct bulbs at any store during my travels.
John
WBCCI & VAC 6034
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Message Number: 11
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 06:59:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: "www.TRADESHOWSandEVENTS.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fuse Block - Dashboard Heater
I have a 77 Argosy and I am trying to get the
dashboard heater blower motor to work. I am hoping it
might just be a fuse. Does anyone know where the Fuse
for the drivers cab heater motor is located?
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Message Number: 12
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:21:03 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Polyethyline sheets
Eric. Do not use fiberglass for a fresh water tank. You will never get rid of
the taste.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 13
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 07:58:37 -0700
From: Jeffrey Engle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rotten floor supports!
Wouldn't you know it, just about the time you think you've been
everywhere there is!
The other day I cut out a small piece of floor in the rear "Trunk" (1977
sovereign center bath, rear twin 31ft.) to replace it before it got too
bad and found that the supports (or otherwise called "Longitudinal
tubing") was rusted clean through! NASTY! .Well since we've had this
there's a double bed over it and I'm afraid i'm going to have to remove
it, the floor, the belly pan...Any help here? thanks jeff OH and by
the way, yes this is the same Jeff who recently enquired how to get his
pics online...of witch I'm working on this very minute! Jeff
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Message Number: 14
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:00:42 -0000
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: vent lifter knobs
If anyone out there needs Ladeau vent lifter knobs, here is your chance,
they are on ebay now at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1855482048
Monitor Scott
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Message Number: 15
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:42:33 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rotten floor supports!
Jeff, I have a 1976 31' center bath. You can take off the rear bottom trim
by removing the blue insert and then drilling out the rivets that holds the
aluminum trim piece. This will expose the rivets that holds the curved
sections that forms the connection from the sides to the belly pan. By
removing the rivets at the trim line you will have access to the side
supports. When I did this project on my 76 I found a real dirty mess of
rotten insulation and rust. I cleaned everything up and sealed the
connections. My flooring was fine and nothing had rusted through.
Good Luck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Engle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 9:58 AM
Subject: [VAC] Rotten floor supports!
> Wouldn't you know it, just about the time you think you've been
> everywhere there is!
> The other day I cut out a small piece of floor in the rear "Trunk" (1977
> sovereign center bath, rear twin 31ft.) to replace it before it got too
> bad and found that the supports (or otherwise called "Longitudinal
> tubing") was rusted clean through! NASTY! .Well since we've had this
> there's a double bed over it and I'm afraid i'm going to have to remove
> it, the floor, the belly pan...Any help here? thanks jeff OH and by
> the way, yes this is the same Jeff who recently enquired how to get his
> pics online...of witch I'm working on this very minute! Jeff
>
>
>
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Message Number: 16
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:24:40 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Polyethyline sheets
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Message Number: 17
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:06:40 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fuse Block - Dashboard Heater
Off topic. I saw a picture of a 77 Argosy recently and it didn't look like
an RV. Did they make both RV models and travel trailers. Also what do you
think your 77 Argosy is worth. Sorry to distract.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "www.TRADESHOWSandEVENTS.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 6:59 AM
Subject: [VAC] Fuse Block - Dashboard Heater
> I have a 77 Argosy and I am trying to get the
> dashboard heater blower motor to work. I am hoping it
> might just be a fuse. Does anyone know where the Fuse
> for the drivers cab heater motor is located?
>
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Message Number: 18
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:18:39 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Epoxy from the bottom up
I would recommend cutting a piece of good wood slightly larger on all sides
than your hole. We'll call this a plug. Then drill a hole in the center of
the plug and put a long screw with a metal lag on the underside and a plate
on top to tighten the screw. This will snug the wood plug on the underside
of the hole.
Drill some small holes for long wood screws through the floor and into the
plug and counter sink. Once the plug is secure, remove the screw and top
plate. You will loose the lag nut into the underbelly.
Cut a piece of good wood to fit as precisely as possible into the hole.
Epoxy the bottom and sides and press into place. Drill a couple more holes
to firmly attach the floor wood to the plug underneath. Patch with standard
floor sealer and cover.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 7:51 PM
Subject: [VAC] Epoxy from the bottom up
> Does anyone know if its possible to epoxy repair a floor from the bottom
> up? I've got a small 1"X6" spot in my Tradewind that would require me to
> take out the whole bathroom - not something I want to do. I would like to
> be able to do it from underneath the floor - I figure I could inject it,
> but not sure if that works. Thanks
>
> Ken Johansen
> 5358
> 59 Traveler
> 75 Tradewind
>
>
>
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Message Number: 19
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:11:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: My airstream Pictures..
Just somthing I'd like to share with all..The updated version for
Lincoln...
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Message Number: 20
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:02:27 -0500
From: "Kevin D. Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Argosy Models
Greetings Bob!
In its short history, Argosy had several distinct models. Probably the most
familiar is the trailer that looks like a painted Airstream, and was built
from 1973 through the end of Argosy production. Motorhomes (also with the
streamlined classic Airstream shape) were also produced under the Argosy
banner, but I am not certain of the precise beginning and ending dates for
the motorhomes. Toward the end of the make's existence, I believe that
there were a few "square" Argosys built just prior to the introduction or in
conjunction with the introduction/production of the "square-stream" trailers
in the Airstream line.
Kevin Allen
WBCCI/VAC #6359
1964 Airstream Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1978 Argosy Minuet/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (Towcar in Training)
----- Original Message -----
From: My Airstream <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:06 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Fuse Block - Dashboard Heater
> Off topic. I saw a picture of a 77 Argosy recently and it didn't look
like
> an RV. Did they make both RV models and travel trailers. Also what do
you
> think your 77 Argosy is worth. Sorry to distract.
>
> Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
> 66 Airstream Safari
> Mira Mar Mobile Park
> Oceanside, CA
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Message Number: 21
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:51:04 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Enlarging jack post mounts
A pneumatic air tool (die grinder) with a fluted rotary file.
RJ
On Monday, September 2, 2002, at 10:39 PM, John Leggett wrote:
> RJ-
> How did you go about enlarging the diameter of the
> jack post hole? Hole saw? Jig Saw? Brute force
> filing? (Please tell me there's an easier way than a
> handfile!)
> John Leggett
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