VACList DigestVACList-Digest Monday, August 26, 2002 Issue 406
Today's Topics:
1. Interesting site about state towing laws
2. Re: Vintage grey water
3. two requests
4. What to do with tired dingy zolatone
5. Re: What to do with tired dingy zolatone
6. '62 Globetrotter Brake Conversion
7. Re: '62 Globetrotter Brake Conversion
8. Re: What to do with tired dingy zolatone
9. Re: '62 Globetrotter Brake Conversion
10. Zolatone
11. Re: Zolatone
12. Re: '62 Globetrotter Brake Conversion
13. Re: What to do with tired dingy zolatone
14. Re: What to do with tired dingy zolatone
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Message Number: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:59:31 -0500
From: "John R. Kleven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Interesting site about state towing laws
http://www.rvadvice.com/rvtowlaw.html
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Message Number: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 00:26:55 -0400
From: Terry Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vintage grey water
on 07/30/02 7:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I made the mistake of letting my wife use full hook ups our first time out.
> Allowing daily showers, and dish washing.
>
That's good. Now she knows how to use everything. Next step is learning how
to use everything conservatively. Our daily goal is to not filling the 5
gallon blue tank. With practice, this is easily done.
Tenters use their picnic table for washing dishes and then toss the water in
the shrubs. We have a dish pan and strainer for that purpose. Sometimes, we
wash dishes only once a day. On rainy days, we wash often. Paper plates can
be "washed" in the campfire. Many choices become evident as the incentive
increases.
> So, when there are not sewer hook ups. What do pre grey tankers do?
>
In high and low desert country, we've been able to go awhile (?) without
showers and still not feel scuzzy. Navy showers work well for us with our
green hose snaked down into a gopher hole. Sometimes, I make our own gopher
hole in the desert and fill it with rocks so there is no surface wetness and
no apparent hole.
But, when humidity and temperature is high, like in Louisiana, my wife has
the following rule: "no hookups = no hook-ups." Yikes, that gets my
attention immediately.
> I understand they have blue tote tanks and will be getting one, but what
> size? How often do you have to empty it? Is it a pain to deal with?
>
For me, a 5 gallon tank (40#s) is easy to manage. I'm in charge of emptying
it. My goal is to be discrete and only do it when no one (hardly anyone)
will notice what I'm doing. My preferred time for doing the job is evening
when most campers are in their rigs and not walking their dog or jogging
around the park. I'm sure some people prefer mornings. And then there are
those who only do it whenever it's mandatory (and make a spectacle of
themselves).
I'm also in charge of the green hose for grey water. I have varying lengths
of hose for use depending on the terrain. The rules about grey water vary
among the states and campgrounds. You'll learn the "rules" quickly,
especially if you misread them.
Regardless of the rules, I'm extremely fastidious and never fuss with the
blue tank when the family next door is down wind of us and 10 feet away in
their tents or sitting around their campfire. When in close quarters, I try
to empty the tank when my neighbors aren't at home or when they're engrossed
in their own high intensity family activities.
You've read several answers from others to your question. I'm sure you'll
work out a system that fits your needs and style. Make it a game and it
won't be a pain.
Terry
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Message Number: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 06:33:20 -0400
From: "Dave Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: two requests
We have a 67 Globetrotter which we took on a 10,000 mile trek last summer
and it works wonderfully. Returned home to Maine and winterized it (of
course) and now find that we are not going to be able to use it this
summer/fall. It still has the antifreeze in it from last winter and I
wonder if I should purge the old stuff, blow it out, and put in new. Is
there a downside to just leaving it in until next spring?
Secondly, is there a way for us to assess how much water we have in the
freshwater tank? We have no gauge and so its level, when I am not filling
it completely, is "by-guess-and-by-gosh" as to what we actually have there
in reserve. Because of weight concerns I would like to know more
accurately. Thanks, Dave Mills
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Message Number: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:18:53 -0700
From: "C. Hale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What to do with tired dingy zolatone
Hi All,
work continues on my 59 Traveler.
The zolatone interior is a light cream with flecks of silver and brown.
I've washed the walls, but there are
-major stains that don't come out
-wide differences in the lightness of the background
-places where the zolatone was previously washed off
-places where the Zolatone was rubbed off by some piece of furniture
I'm interested in keeping the zolatone, but it has to look better than it
does.
Are there touch-up techniques that I should know about?
Are there other multi-color paints that would give a similar feel?
I know that some say that dingy zolatone is worth more than painted walls
but it looks pretty tired now.
Please Advise!
Cindy
59 Traveler
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Message Number: 5
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:34:40 -0600
From: Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What to do with tired dingy zolatone
How about re-doing the Zolotone? This product is still available,
however the color may not be an exact-enough match for just a touch-up,
so the entire interior would need to be re-done. Once done though, it
ought to last another 40+ years!
Shari
C. Hale wrote:
>Hi All,
>work continues on my 59 Traveler.
>The zolatone interior is a light cream with flecks of silver and brown.
>I've washed the walls, but there are
>-major stains that don't come out
>-wide differences in the lightness of the background
>-places where the zolatone was previously washed off
>-places where the Zolatone was rubbed off by some piece of furniture
>I'm interested in keeping the zolatone, but it has to look better than it
>does.
>Are there touch-up techniques that I should know about?
>Are there other multi-color paints that would give a similar feel?
>
>I know that some say that dingy zolatone is worth more than painted walls
>but it looks pretty tired now.
>Please Advise!
>Cindy
>59 Traveler
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Message Number: 6
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:49:46 -0700
From: "David Pfeffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: '62 Globetrotter Brake Conversion
Folks:
My GT has the Stromberg hydraulic brake system and I'd like to convert it
to electric without having to change over the axle. Problem is, it has
Kelsey Hayes drums and I can't find a backing plate which adapts to the
existing drums. It appears I need to replace both drums. Has anyone had a
similar experience?
Thanks,
David
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Message Number: 7
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:10:48 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '62 Globetrotter Brake Conversion
Yes, and it's not for the fainted hearted.
http://www.VintageAirstream.com/floyd/brakes/brakes.html
http://www.VintageAirstream.com/floyd/brakes/backingplate.html
But, this was for a Hadco on a leaf spring suspension. The Dexter
(http://www.dexteraxle.com) plates & rings are supposed to fit the K-H
hubs on the Dura-torque axles. A couple of List members (Paul Farley,
Bryan Burkhart) have converted theirs.
RJ
VintageAirstream.com
On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 09:49 AM, David Pfeffer wrote:
> Folks:
> My GT has the Stromberg hydraulic brake system and I'd like to convert
> it
> to electric without having to change over the axle. Problem is, it has
> Kelsey Hayes drums and I can't find a backing plate which adapts to the
> existing drums. It appears I need to replace both drums. Has anyone
> had a
> similar experience?
> Thanks,
> David
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Message Number: 8
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:21:36 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What to do with tired dingy zolatone
How about Zolatone again? I've done a couple of trailers for people now
with the stuff, and will do our latest personal restoration. You can't
quite get the exact match, so you have to do all the exposed surface,
but what's nice is that the existing finish acts as the primer coast,
and the Zolatone will become one with the surface - bulletproof. In the
case of our Flying Cloud we are going to use the Desert Camo with some
of the Bright blue to add the turquoise effect the original had.
Sounds like your mix would be the camo & silver gray.
Auto paint stores carry the stuff, but it does require a good spray
paint gun (rental if need be)
Best of luck,
RJ
'65 Caravel
'57 Flying Cloud
On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 09:18 AM, C. Hale wrote:
> Hi All,
> work continues on my 59 Traveler.
> The zolatone interior is a light cream with flecks of silver and brown.
> I've washed the walls, but there are
> -major stains that don't come out
> -wide differences in the lightness of the background
> -places where the zolatone was previously washed off
> -places where the Zolatone was rubbed off by some piece of furniture
> I'm interested in keeping the zolatone, but it has to look better than
> it
> does.
> Are there touch-up techniques that I should know about?
> Are there other multi-color paints that would give a similar feel?
>
> I know that some say that dingy zolatone is worth more than painted
> walls
> but it looks pretty tired now.
> Please Advise!
> Cindy
> 59 Traveler
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Message Number: 9
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:26:07 -0500
From: "J.Evans Woodward III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '62 Globetrotter Brake Conversion
This is a link to a brake conversion that may be helpfull.
http://www.vintageairstream.com/floyd/brakes/backingplate.html
I dont think is exactly the same but it may give you some ideas.
Evans '62 Sov
Folks:
My GT has the Stromberg hydraulic brake system and I'd like to convert it
to electric without having to change over the axle. Problem is, it has
Kelsey Hayes drums and I can't find a backing plate which adapts to the
existing drums. It appears I need to replace both drums. Has anyone had a
similar experience?
Thanks,
David
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Message Number: 10
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:34:21 -0400
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Zolatone
I notice that zolatone will even make custom colors for you, in addition to
their 50,000 standard colors. I bet you can get the exact color
combination you're looking for. This is making me think about new zolatone
too!! See www.zolatone.com.
Amanda
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Message Number: 11
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:38:59 -0600
From: Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zolatone
Yes, they will do custom colors...however you must order many more
gallons than you will need...I think it's 50-100 gallons or so. There
are "standard" colors & "semi-custom" colors that will come close that
are available without going the custom route.
Shari
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>I notice that zolatone will even make custom colors for you, in addition to
>their 50,000 standard colors. I bet you can get the exact color
>combination you're looking for. This is making me think about new zolatone
>too!! See www.zolatone.com.
>
>Amanda
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Message Number: 12
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:52:24 -0700
From: Paul Farley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '62 Globetrotter Brake Conversion
David one reason your old drums may not work, is that they might not have
the flat surface needed for the electrical pickup of the new brakes. (see
the links RJ included)
I had my conversion completed at a local horse trailer repair shop and as
much as I pride myself on doing my own work the price was too good to pass
up, nobody swore, all knuckles are still in tact AND they work as designed.
Paul Farley
65 GT
Webmaster wrote:
> Yes, and it's not for the fainted hearted.
> http://www.VintageAirstream.com/floyd/brakes/brakes.html
> http://www.VintageAirstream.com/floyd/brakes/backingplate.html
>
> But, this was for a Hadco on a leaf spring suspension. The Dexter
> (http://www.dexteraxle.com) plates & rings are supposed to fit the K-H
> hubs on the Dura-torque axles. A couple of List members (Paul Farley,
> Bryan Burkhart) have converted theirs.
>
> RJ
> VintageAirstream.com
>
> On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 09:49 AM, David Pfeffer wrote:
>
> > Folks:
> > My GT has the Stromberg hydraulic brake system and I'd like to convert
> > it
> > to electric without having to change over the axle. Problem is, it has
> > Kelsey Hayes drums and I can't find a backing plate which adapts to the
> > existing drums. It appears I need to replace both drums. Has anyone
> > had a
> > similar experience?
> > Thanks,
> > David
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Message Number: 13
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:08:42 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What to do with tired dingy zolatone
Forgot the Zolatone Link with color charts & application info:
http://www.zolatoneaim.com/index1.html
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Message Number: 14
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:08:42 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What to do with tired dingy zolatone
Forgot the Zolatone Link with color charts & application info:
http://www.zolatoneaim.com/index1.html
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