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On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Dean Johnson <[email protected]>wrote:

> Dan,
> The spring on the bad valve is not compressed as much because the valve is
> stripped and the keeper is closer to the end of the valve allowing it to
> expand more than the others. I'll take another spring off and make sure
> they are the same height, but I suspect they are when relaxed.
>
> Bill,
> If the keepers didn't touch at both sides I'm sure they do now, with the
> valve stem being stripped.
> I'll take a closer look at the keepers and take some pics, right not the
> head is at my new friend's house. (anyone with as many VWs as he has is a
> friend to me)
>
> Dean
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Dan Moy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> There is a clue in what you said, if there where swivel feet, than it is
>> really important that the push rods are cut to the appropriate length to
>> insure that there is no binding, in addition to installing
>> the appropriate shims.
>>
>> Also what does this mean: "The spring wasn't as compressed as the
>> others" the springs should all be the same height?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Dean Johnson <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I also want to know why. I'll report what I can after I get the valve
>>> out. The keeper grooves are gone. I don't know how the keepers could be
>>> installed any differently. They look in good shape but I really haven't
>>> looked closely for damage. When it was still together there wasn't anything
>>> odd, they fit well with the retainer. The spring looks normal too. The
>>> spring wasn't as compressed as the others, but that was due to the retainer
>>> sitting closer to the end of the valve stem.
>>> I'll look more closely and see what I can tell you. My guess if bad
>>> material. The head came on the engine from Strictly Foreign with swivel
>>> ball adjusters, and spacers under the rocker shaft. I don't see how the
>>> geometry for that valve would be any different from the others, which were
>>> in pretty good adjustment when I discovered the bad stem.
>>>
>>> I adjusted the valves on these many times over the past 30,000 miles and
>>> didn't notice that valve needing extra adjustment (perhaps it did but not
>>> enough for me to notice.)
>>> I can do basic valve lapping (at least to the level needed for lawn
>>> mowers) but don't feel up to grinding and lapping multiple angles etc.
>>> So, how do I find a good VW machinist who can do the job and get my head
>>> back together? I suppose it can be anywhere as I'll have to ship it anyway.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dean
>>> I really wish I had a spare engine, a nice reliable 1600 in the stock
>>> configuration.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Dan Moy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dean,
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean stripped of the keeper grooves?  I would want to know why
>>>> this happened:
>>>>
>>>> (1) was the valve material bad
>>>> (2) Is the spring different than others
>>>> (3) where the keepers improperly installed
>>>> (4) as is what does the valve train geometry look like
>>>>
>>>> If you are going to replace the valve with a new one you will need
>>>> match it to the valve seat otherwise it will leak.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Dean Johnson <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I took my head to a local VW guy (not a machinist), he checked out the
>>>>> head. The valve guides are good and all the other valves are good too.
>>>>> The bad valve was stripped of its grooves for some reason. I'm just
>>>>> going to replace the one valve. While I hate to ask for advice and not 
>>>>> take
>>>>> it, the local guy feels confident this will work. He and the VW mechanic
>>>>> turned high school science teacher have both had bad experiences with
>>>>> machine shops and VW heads.
>>>>> But wait! Does the valve need grinding, or at least lapping.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, I need to decide how far to go with this.
>>>>>>  1. buy an intake valve and keepers and replace just the bad one.
>>>>>>  2. Buy a set for all valves in both heads and rebuild them myself.
>>>>>>  3. Send heads to a machine shop for rebuild.
>>>>>>  4. buy one or two heads.
>>>>>>
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